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* Present:
        + Andras, Norbert, Eike, Caolan, Joel, David, Michael M,
          Stephan, Kendy, Petr, Norbert, Michael S, Thorsten,
          Cedric, Pierre-Eric, Ahmad

* Completed Action Items
        + add a11y issue to 3.6.x release notes (Thorsten)
        + audit set of new / built-in fonts (Caolan)
                + they're fine.
        + create script / suggestions to parse Meeks minutes (Bjoern)
                + punted.
        + fdo#51023 - impress D&D crasher - (thanks Tor !)
        + post proposed set of rules for 4.x ABI handling to
          list for discussion (Kendy)
        + update wiki page wrt. 4.0 versioning details (Petr)
        + set updater to get 3.5.0..2 -> 3.6.3 (Kendy)
                + done.
        + T-shirt feedback sent to Mirek (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
        + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
        + poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
        + issues to look into if we can
                + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
        + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
        + update master / build versioning (Petr)
        + setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
        + font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
                + waiting for Astron's feedback
        + provide a new palette based on Tango (Alex?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + on-line update / full switch-over go/no-go ?
                + there are and always will be regressions (Petr)
                + instead propose update people on versions
                  in range: 3.5.0-3.5.x and 3.6.0 to 3.6.x-1 to 3.6.x
                + that means updating up to 3.5.3 to 3.6.3 (as of now)
AA:               keep this scheme up unless foiled by a security issue
        + 3.6.4 rc1 branch deadline is Nov 12th
                + branch on Tuesday.
        + 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
                + feature-freeze 3 weeks out.

* Hack-fest coming up:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
                + if you're coming - please sign up: 20x guys so far.
        + do people need travel subsidy to be there ?
                + anyone interested please contact me.

* UX input (Astron)
        + should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
                + concrete decision appreciated.

* Warning-free build issues (Lionel)
        + new-contributor interest in reducing build time warnings
                + most of the warnings are in included code not ours.
        + punted until Lionel can be here

* FOSDEM dev-room:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
        + travel subsidy available
        + talks much appreciated, sign up early.

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
        + list is published
        + [ list seen in blog ] ...
AA:     + grok the list of contributors for suitable candidates (Kendy)
AA:     + work on mail to encourage them to apply (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)

* formal ESC composition:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
        + add Joel
AA:     + add Mirek (?) ask Astron / Mirek / Alexander (Kendy)
        + add Tibby in Mitch's place.
        + add Ahamd for MOTAH
AA:     + poke the board with new names (Michael)

* submodules retrospective (Norbert)
        + lots of people with exciting problems migrating
        + seems to be working nicely now.
        + issues with failed checkout of concern (Michael)

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
        + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
        
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* 4.0 pending tasks
        + binfilter - what to do about it (Norbert)
                + remove it completely (Michael S)
                + do we have a concrete criteria for this stuff (Caolan)
                        + remote Lotus Word Pro for consistency ?
                + binfilter particularly bad: duplicated code.
                + happy to remove it.
        + bundling libre logo ? (Andras)
                + cf. motivational mail to dev list
                + around 200k with icons license etc.
                + is it useful for office suite users (Stephan)
                + useful for school children & fun in draw
                + not eager for bundled extensions
                        + built it into the core (Stephan)
        + should we drop Rhino, Beanshell & javascript in 4.0 ? (Michael)
                + could be turned into an extension
                + was in the past was turned off (Stephan)
AA:             + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
                + for future deprecation / removal.
        + upgrade bundled python to 3.0
        + user migration path thought / testing
AA:     + bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)

* LibreOffice conference bits
        + please send links to your photos to
          conference@global.libreoffice.org

* cool feature contributions from latest Ubuntu (Bjoern)
        + shipping in latest Ubuntu
        + PackageKit - just one patch, whack it in - an UNO component that
          checks if pkgs are installed / install them etc.
                + some distro-specific package name wrapping needed
                + push buttons for additional templates
                + lots of expansion potential: filters, lang-packs etc.
        + Unity Menus
                + re-base the branch vs. master
AA:             + review the branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)

* UDS Update (Bjoern)
  - three LibreOffice sessions, some highlights:
    - we will do three daily LibreOffice builds in Canonical QA Labs:
      - master without system libs
        - can we tinbuild that for integration in upstream infra ?
      - release with system libs
        - best without tinbuild integration: breakages are more likely
          Ubuntus faults
      - possibly: QEMU ARM build in QA mode.
    - greenlighted investigating cleaning up scp2, my goals would be:
      - make it driven by deps only, so that you can do "make
        /usr/lib/ure/lib/lib_unosal.so.3" without doing a full re-build.
           + v. useful for quick hackery
      - kill solver -- copy directly from $WORKDIR
    - various packaging titbits
    - http://errors.ubuntu.com/ is truely awesome
        + enter libreoffice-core and 'last month'
        + for Fedora (Caolan)
                + https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/hot/*/*/libreoffice/
    - Ubuntu will introduce staged updates, maybe an idea for the
      Windows updater discussion?
        + staged -> goes to a few people first, then a wider group.
    - quickly showed off bibisect, might be an idea for upstream GNOME too.

* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
        + business as usual
        + trying to get back into routine - wrt. time-change

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
                + page updated
                + developers like the selection of hard hacks
        + fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Michael)
        + fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object
                + volunteer needed
        + fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
                + well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.

* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
        + fdo#56460 - CRASH closing specific .odg files ? (Caolan)

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
        + 4 (of 18) older 3/16 3/14 2/13
        + fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
        + fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
        + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 34 (of 148) older 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127
              23%            24%    24%    23%    21%    32%    34%    34%    35%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 69 open (of 278) older 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270
              25%                 25%    27%    28%     28%    29%    29%    30%    30%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 178(+1) bugs open of 891(+9) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 74 (+0)
        + Crashes      - 17 (+1)
        + Presentation - 17 (-1)
        + Database     - 16 (+1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 15 (+2)
        + LibreOffice  - 12 (+0)
        + Drawing      - 13 (+1)
        + Borders      - 9  (-2)
        + Migration    - 5  (+0)
        + Basic        - 3  (+0)
        + Writer / RTF - 1  (-2)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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