minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
  + Andras, Norbert, Eike, Caolan, Joel, David, Michael M,
    Stephan, Kendy, Petr, Norbert, Michael S, Thorsten,
    Cedric, Pierre-Eric, Ahmad

* Completed Action Items
  + add a11y issue to 3.6.x release notes (Thorsten)
  + audit set of new / built-in fonts (Caolan)
    + they're fine.
  + create script / suggestions to parse Meeks minutes (Bjoern)
    + punted.
  + fdo#51023 - impress D&D crasher - (thanks Tor !)
  + post proposed set of rules for 4.x ABI handling to
    list for discussion (Kendy)
  + update wiki page wrt. 4.0 versioning details (Petr)
  + set updater to get 3.5.0..2 -> 3.6.3 (Kendy)
    + done.
  + T-shirt feedback sent to Mirek (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
  + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
  + poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
  + issues to look into if we can
    + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
  + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
  + update master / build versioning (Petr)
  + setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
  + font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
    + waiting for Astron's feedback
  + provide a new palette based on Tango (Alex?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
  + on-line update / full switch-over go/no-go ?
    + there are and always will be regressions (Petr)
    + instead propose update people on versions
      in range: 3.5.0-3.5.x and 3.6.0 to 3.6.x-1 to 3.6.x
    + that means updating up to 3.5.3 to 3.6.3 (as of now)
AA: keep this scheme up unless foiled by a security issue
  + 3.6.4 rc1 branch deadline is Nov 12th
    + branch on Tuesday.
  + 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
    + feature-freeze 3 weeks out.

* Hack-fest coming up:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
    + if you're coming - please sign up: 20x guys so far.
  + do people need travel subsidy to be there ?
    + anyone interested please contact me.

* UX input (Astron)
  + should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
    + concrete decision appreciated.

* Warning-free build issues (Lionel)
  + new-contributor interest in reducing build time warnings
    + most of the warnings are in included code not ours.
  + punted until Lionel can be here

* FOSDEM dev-room:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
  + travel subsidy available
  + talks much appreciated, sign up early.

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
  + list is published
  + [ list seen in blog ] ...
AA: + grok the list of contributors for suitable candidates (Kendy)
AA: + work on mail to encourage them to apply (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)

* formal ESC composition:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
  + add Joel
AA: + add Mirek (?) ask Astron / Mirek / Alexander (Kendy)
  + add Tibby in Mitch's place.
  + add Ahamd for MOTAH
AA: + poke the board with new names (Michael)

* submodules retrospective (Norbert)
  + lots of people with exciting problems migrating
  + seems to be working nicely now.
  + issues with failed checkout of concern (Michael)

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
  + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* 4.0 pending tasks
  + binfilter - what to do about it (Norbert)
    + remove it completely (Michael S)
    + do we have a concrete criteria for this stuff (Caolan)
      + remote Lotus Word Pro for consistency ?
    + binfilter particularly bad: duplicated code.
    + happy to remove it.
  + bundling libre logo ? (Andras)
    + cf. motivational mail to dev list
    + around 200k with icons license etc.
    + is it useful for office suite users (Stephan)
    + useful for school children & fun in draw
    + not eager for bundled extensions
      + built it into the core (Stephan)
  + should we drop Rhino, Beanshell & javascript in 4.0 ? (Michael)
    + could be turned into an extension
    + was in the past was turned off (Stephan)
AA: + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
    + for future deprecation / removal.
  + upgrade bundled python to 3.0
  + user migration path thought / testing
AA: + bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)

* LibreOffice conference bits
  + please send links to your photos to
    conference@global.libreoffice.org

* cool feature contributions from latest Ubuntu (Bjoern)
  + shipping in latest Ubuntu
  + PackageKit - just one patch, whack it in - an UNO component that
    checks if pkgs are installed / install them etc.
    + some distro-specific package name wrapping needed
    + push buttons for additional templates
    + lots of expansion potential: filters, lang-packs etc.
  + Unity Menus
    + re-base the branch vs. master
AA: + review the branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)

* UDS Update (Bjoern)
  - three LibreOffice sessions, some highlights:
    - we will do three daily LibreOffice builds in Canonical QA Labs:
      - master without system libs
        - can we tinbuild that for integration in upstream infra ?
      - release with system libs
        - best without tinbuild integration: breakages are more likely
    Ubuntus faults
      - possibly: QEMU ARM build in QA mode.
    - greenlighted investigating cleaning up scp2, my goals would be:
      - make it driven by deps only, so that you can do "make
        /usr/lib/ure/lib/lib_unosal.so.3" without doing a full re-build.
           + v. useful for quick hackery
      - kill solver -- copy directly from $WORKDIR
    - various packaging titbits
    - http://errors.ubuntu.com/ is truely awesome
  + enter libreoffice-core and 'last month'
  + for Fedora (Caolan)
    + https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/hot///libreoffice/
    - Ubuntu will introduce staged updates, maybe an idea for the
      Windows updater discussion?
  + staged -> goes to a few people first, then a wider group.
    - quickly showed off bibisect, might be an idea for upstream GNOME too.

* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
  + business as usual
  + trying to get back into routine - wrt. time-change

* Hard Hacks:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
    + page updated
    + developers like the selection of hard hacks
  + fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Michael)
  + fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object
    + volunteer needed
  + fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
    + well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.

* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
  + fdo#56460 - CRASH closing specific .odg files ? (Caolan)

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
  + 4 (of 18) older 3/16 3/14 2/13
  + fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
  + fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
  + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
  + 34 (of 148) older 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127
        23% 24% 24% 23% 21% 32% 34% 34% 35%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
  + 69 open (of 278) older 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270
        25% 25% 27% 28% 28% 29% 29% 30% 30%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
  + 178(+1) bugs open of 891(+9) total

  * ~Component count net *
  + Writer - 74 (+0)
  + Crashes - 17 (+1)
  + Presentation - 17 (-1)
  + Database - 16 (+1)
  + Spreadsheet - 15 (+2)
  + LibreOffice - 12 (+0)
  + Drawing - 13 (+1)
  + Borders - 9 (-2)
  + Migration - 5 (+0)
  + Basic - 3 (+0)
  + Writer / RTF - 1 (-2)

  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489