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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:52:16 +0100
From: Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@suse.com>
To: libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, Libreoffice-qa 
<libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
        + Norbert, Stephan, Rainer, Michael, Bjoern, Kohei, Caolan,
          Christian, Kendy, Petr, Cedric, Michael S, Astron

* Completed Action Items
        + quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael)
                + thanks to Marc !
        + another review for splash-screens (Michael)
        + 4.0 wiki page section split (Kendy)
        + check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (PEtr)

* Pending Action Items
        + [pending] notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
          statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
                + reviews done
        + make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
        + maildrop for Gerrit (Bjoern)
                + 3/4 done, in progress idly.
        + 4.0 issues (Everyone)
                + everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC!
                        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
        + crediting: can we separate templates / artwork in the credits page (Spaetz?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.0 RC4
                + annoying bug: comments lots during .xls / .xlsx export
                        + not good, but probably not a blocker
                + autocorrection & dictionaries internal / user-installation
                  extensions not had their versions bumped => not
                  working (Stephan)
                + actively registered / lightproof uno extensions also
                  have some update issues - have a fix as well (Stephan)
                        + grammar-checker impairment
                + workaround - manually remove bundled extensions directory
                        + locating it on windows is a pain.
                + registering bundled extn's
                        + slowest bit is help registration
                        - hence version check.
                + decision: ship it now
                        + release note it carefully
        + 3.6.1 RC1 is due in 2 weeks
                + all above issues fixed
        + 3.5.6 RC1 status
                + built except for Win32, start up-loading later today
                + RC2 deadline is on Monday - tripple review for -3-5-6
        + Automatic update / suggesions policy
                + we can choose which versions update to what versions (Kendy)
                + perfectly possibly to recommend 3.5.0 -> 3.6.0 but
                  avoid 3.5.1+ -> 3.6.0
                + no user configuration for enthusiasm for updates ? (Norbert)
                        + only enable / disable
                + re-visit update to 3.6.1 from 3.5.0
        + perennial updating / first-start user-experience issues
                + re-thinking the complicated optimisations here
                  sounds like a good plan.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + ongoing work - pencils down / evaluations by August 20th

* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)
        + thanks to those who assigned themselves some tasks
        + should we start now or post-re-basing ?
                + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
        + can we do the less incompatible changes first (Bjoern)
        + deadline - of next week for volunteers for tasks
        + proposal - call next version 4.0, pending wider input.
        + whole point of 4.0 - if incompatible (Michael S)
                + will keep people on last 3.x release for longer
                  so need to support it for longer
                + always true even if we do 3.7 (Norbert)
                + concerns wrt. longer term support of re-based code
                + if we retain good back-compat / bridging much
                  less of an issue (Michael)
        + start working, and testing breakage (Stephan)
                + start doing it & see if it works or breaks
        + unclear proposal / need an updated release plan (Bjoern)
        + wide-spread code changed blocked anyway on re-basing (Lubos)
                + discussion ongoing with 3.6.x fixing
        + could we have a re-based 4.0 with no ABI break (Stephan)
                + announce intention to break things (Bjoern)
        + potential to incremental numbering eg. 4 -> 5 -> 6 for
          next releases (Stephan)
        + extend deadline until next week for task selection in wiki
                + please take ownership of tasks
                + and/or consider what can be done without
                  breaking binary compatibility.

* UI / design update (Astron)
        + ongoing vacations for Mirek
        + CTL discussion still under consideration

* Call for Papers for talks @ LibreOffice conference
        + if your name includes non-ascii characters you can't register:
          Andreas in the process of fixing this.
        + http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper
                + please submit talks ASAP ...

* QA update (Rainer)
        + producing a bibsect repository for Windows (Norbert)
        + new bug report page - with search for duplicates thanks to Tollef

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
    + 12 (of 55) older 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13
         22%            23%   19%  27%   31%   19%  24%  16%  27%  62%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
    + 77 open (of 253) older 73/250 72/249 67/244 70/243 73/241 72/238 68/231
         30%                   29%   29%    27%    29%    30%    30%    29%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 180(-1) bugs open of 720(+10) total
    + Started to double-count more classes of regression, to split
      them out more easily: Crashes, Borders, Migration
        + temporarily distorts graphs
        + encourages fixing of these bugs

    * ~Component   count net *
    + Writer       - 69 (-1)
    + Spreadsheet  - 20 (+3)
    + Presentation - 20 (+0)
    + Crashes      - 19 (+3)
    + LibreOffice  - 16 (+1)
    + Database     - 10 (-2)
    + Drawing      - 11 (+0)
    + Borders      - 9  (+0)
    + Migration    - 7  (+2)
    + Writer / RTF - 7  (+0)
    + Basic        - 2  (+0)

    + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
    + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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