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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:50:28 +0100
From: Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@suse.com>
To: libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, Libreoffice-qa 
<libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
        Norbert, Stephan, Eike, David T, Lionel, Markus, Kendy, Bjoern,
        Caolan, Andras, Michael M, Fridrich, Michael S, Rainer, Astron,
        Tibbylickle

* Completed Action Items
        + fix CC-By-SA licensing requirements (Andras)
        + Mango icons - in gerrit pending review (Astron)
AI:             + reviewing action needed for 3-6-0 etc. (Michael, Caolan)

* Pending Action Items
        + notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
          statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
AI:             + get list of freedesktop mails to Bjoern (Norbert)
        + check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (Thorsten)
        + crediting: can we separate tempates in the credits page (Spaetz?)
        + quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
        + 3.5.5 released, DVDs up-loaded yesterday etc.
        + 3.6.0 RC2
                + build issues on windows but finally up-loaded this morning
                + synching to mirrors, announce expected tomorrow
        + branch created for libreoffice-3-6-0
                + commits must be cherry-picked from 3-6
                + after an additional two reviews (+1 for -3-6)
        + 3.5.6 RC1 - July 30th ish

* 3.6.0 blocker bug check (Petr/Michael)
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
        + Java runtime fix / cherry-pick
                + concerned that the fix is right ? we can't ship
                  endless MSVC++ runtimes.
        + 3.5+ Mac a11y issue - Stephan & Norbert hunting
        + working with 3.6 and it works well (Rainer)
        + most concern around base performance issues
                + integrated cache regression speedup before branch (Fridrich)
                + not a crash issue (Lionel)
                + we can release-note & fix for 3.6.1
AI:     + review updated license / dos (Caolan, Bjoern)
        + concern wrt. count of testers (Bjeorn)
                + universal / release snapshot unique IP numbers
                        + B1 1200, B2 1200, B3 700, RC1 500
                        + B3: 55 Linux, 54 Mac, 584 Windows
                + plus Linux distro downloads in parallel
AI:             + check updater to push people through to upgrade RCs (Kendy)

* GSOC update (Fridrich)
        + nine of ten students passed the midterm evaluation
        + lots of great work going on, and applied dedication

* UI / design update (Astron)
        + icons already discussed
AI:     + another review for splash-screens (Michael)
        + about box background image pending
        + 'official' conference logo is pending needs decision

* cppunit / build issues (Stephan/Moggi/Michael)
        + --disable-cve-tests - useful on windows wrt. anti-virus
                + slam-dunk / good idea, merge the patch.
        + indifferent about --disable-xmlsec
                + only intended for iOS / Android currently, should
                  not be used on Linux.
                + configure should check & fail if this option is
                  set for non iOS / Android
        + --disable-cppunit is controversial
                + programmers are lazy, we want widespread unit
                  test running & coverage (Markus)
                + once needed to disable unit tests working on
                  coretext (Norbert)
                + 'make build' already exists (Markus)
                        + not widely publicised
                        + disables all unit tests in the build
                        + problem is it doesn't build an install-set
                        + can run make cmd cmd=bin/ooinstall after that
                + Ubuntu disables tests during the build already, so
                  make check runs them in a separate phase (Bjoern)
                + disabling unit tests generally seems a bad idea, each time
                  unit tests break - turned out to be a regression (Fridrich)
        + potential unit test performance problems
                + potential slowdown for linux tinderbox build tests
                  investigating it (Norbert)
                + seen some runaway unit tests / slowchecks, chasing it (Bjoern)
                + will continue to dedicate some small % of build-time
                  running unit tests

* MSI cross-compilation from Linux (Tibby)
        + been merged to master
        + java enabled / compilation issues
        + help with build process / location of uuidgen
          using undocumented parameters etc.
AI:     + help get tinderboxes building up-loading msis (Andras)

* re-basing update (Michael)
        + 85 modules ~complete, 48 to go
        + ~19k files re-based.

* un-merged patches in bugzilla (Michael S / Caolan)
        + down to a dozen or so left.

* ODF update (Thorsten)
        + long term sub-committee working on new change-tracking
          -proposal- on the horizon - more flexible, but
          significantly different from what we have now
                + change tracking stored separately
                + major non-incremental change coming
        + potential re-use for other functionality.
        + suggestions welcome

* QA update (Rainer)
        + business as usual
        + rising number of unusable reports from bugzilla report assistant
                + too easy to file bugs ?
                + need a German translation for the tool
        + working on a database to associate new developers with
          easy-fix bugs in related areas.

* 4.0 - when to call it that ? (Kendy)
        + extension downloads
                + some quite popular PDF import 3m downloads
                + mysql - 330k
                + spellcheck dicts - 300k
        + renaming com::sun::star a problem here,
        + instead perhaps announce rolling flag-day (Caolan's plan)
                + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
                + too much to do in one six-month section
        + top of agenda for next week.

* gerrit update (Bjoern)
        + syadmin team for gerrit have an alias:
                gerrit@otrs.documentfoundation.org
          please use sparingly for agreed issues or
          service outages.
        + OTRS being deployed generally for sysadmin ticketing
        + [ dump of Bjeorn's update cropped by time ]:
        * gerrit -- progress:
           - syncscript has been updated (rewritten in python, has sane logging now)
           - Kendy tweaked the setting to include a patch in the mails
           - tooling now on SCM:
             - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/gerrit
               gerrit config, patches welcome
             - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/gerritbot
               gerrit sync and mail bot, patches welcome
             - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/gerritircbot
               gerrit irc bot, patches welcome
           - dev-tools now also on gerrit
        * gerrit -- known issues:
           - gerrits show-all-diffs is pointless as-is
           - direct pushes to the branch do not trigger an email notification to the dev
             list
           - Maildrop for Gerrit (David)
             - already two halfbaked implementations exist by Bjoern and David
AI:          - left it to David to cherrypick the best from both and finish (Bjoern)
           - gerrit-links for dev-tools result in a CRLfile-errormessage
           - gitweb for dev-tools doesnt work yet
           - cherrypicking an change accepted on another branch does not work

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 8 (of 42) older 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13
             19%           27%   31%   19%  24%  16%  27%  62%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 72 open (of 249) older 67/244 70/243 73/241 72/238 68/231 67/229 67/226
             29%                   27%   29%    30%   30%    29%    29%    30%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 170(+5) bugs open of 691(+14) total
        + Started to double-count more classes of regression, to split
          them out more easily: Crashes, Borders, Migration
                + temporarily distorts graphs
                + encourages fixing of these bugs

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 67 (+2)
        + Presentation - 20 (-1)
        + LibreOffice  - 14 (-1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 14 (-2)
        + Crashes      - 13 (-3)
        + Borders      - 10 (-1)
        + Drawing      - 11 (+0)
        + Database     - 10 (+3)
        + Writer / RTF - 5  (+0)
        + Migration    - 4  (-2)
        + Basic        - 2  (-1)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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