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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:55:50 +0100
From: Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@suse.com>
To: libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, Libreoffice-qa 
<libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
        + Pierre-Eric, Stephan, Lionel, Eike, Bjoern, Michael,
          Cedric, Astron, Thorsten, Rainer, Caolan, David, Petr

* Completed Action Items
        + fix gerrit moderation issues (Bjoern)
        + help Mirek update Mac installer artwork (Thorsten)
                + always official artwork in RC1, needs thoufgth
        + adapt & bring closer the 3.5.6 schedule (Petr)
        + design team made nice google+ post about new templates (Mirek)
                https://plus.google.com/u/0/102673546895803839652/posts/B69SRVVi89t

* Pending Action Items
        + notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
          statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
                + pending Norbert's return
        + check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (Thorsten)
        + crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.5.5 retrospective
                + went well, modulo needing another release-candidate
                + should we extend the gap between RC's - or not ?
                        + prolly not we get few of these fix regressions
        + 3.5.6 RC1 - July 14th - 2 weeks time.
        + 3.6.0 RC1
                + builds ready, pending Mac PPC builds, announce tomorrow
                + looking good, but plenty of bugs to fix
        + 3.6.0 RC2 - Monday deadline
AI:     + quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael)
        + Unique IP's using 3.6.0 betas so far:
                + B1 - 1100
                + B2 - 1000
                + B3 - 220

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + time to ensure all evaluations are in; only 2 pending.

* UI / design update (Astron)
        + concerns about green-ness of new branding
                + leave it as-is for now; fix later in 3.6.2 if
                  people havn't acclimatised to the brightness.
        + more tweaks to meet branding / alignment requirements
                => new splashes coming
        + progress bar appearance on OS/X is poor
        + about-box / background image work in progress
AI:     + Mango icons - not in yet, going in ~tomorrow (Astron)
AI:     + fix CC-By-SA licensing requirements (Michael)

* re-basing update (Michael)
        + 76 modules ~complete, 59 to go
        + ~17k files re-based.

* Solaris compile / status update (Pierre-Eric)
        + friendly French chap working for Lanedo
        + couple of weeks of work to make it compile on Solaris with gcc
        + so far, starts, looks pretty and crashes
        + involved on IRC (pepp) - debugging and improving things there
        + focused on Intel initially

* un-merged patches in bugzilla (Michael S / Caolan)
        + halved the numbers of open bugs

* cppunit / build issues (Michael)
        + deferred for Markus / David to be present.

* QA update (Rainer)
        + business as usual
        + no un-expected problems in 3.6
        + no real blockers known currently
        + Tollef's bugzilla improvements
                + migrated database to faster & virtualised hardware.
                + fewer error-message problems so far.

* Windows / ldap (Fridrich)
        + porting from mozilla ldap library to native windows API
        + moving to openldap included for linux / generic builds
        + leave mozilla code for addressbook integration,
          and/or re-write to avoid big chunk of mozilla bundled
        + use NSS for security pieces

* gerrit update (David / Bjoern)
        + E-mail firehose
                + initially a bit much, turned it down a bit.
                + send mails for 'new change' and 'merged' now.
                + 'merged' is buggy, if you push directly without
                  signing-off on gerrit before; bug filed.
        + gerritbot: scripting to eg. send mails etc. is in:
                http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/gerritbot
        + can we have the patch in the 'new change' mail (Lionel)
                + would be nice !
        + two ways to do mailing - better to move to using stream object
          and generate our own mails (Bjoern)
                + change templates on server-side; would affect all
                  subscribing to a watched project.
        + could we not send mails for committers' changes (Petr)
                + hard to do (Bjoern)
        + some benefits
                + only a few more steps (Eike)
                + confusion from several routes through the flow
                + patches are well-formed & apply (Michael)
                + unwelcome transactional cost (Fridrich)
                + others havn't tried it yet but should.
        + still some teething troubles from startup costs (Bjoern)
        + lots of supposed / bogus patch inter-dependency
                + multiple commits when pushed are marked dependent,
                  even if they are not etc.
                + please use the './logerrit nextchange' tool to ensure
                  separate patches stay separate.
        + around five patches per day or so coming through.

* 4.0 - when is it ? (Kendy)
        + punted until Kendy & SBerg are back from vacation ...

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 67 open (of 244) older 70/243 73/241 72/238 68/231 67/229 67/226 62/219
             27%                   29%    30%   30%    29%    29%    30%    28%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 10 (of 37) older 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13
             27%            31%   19%  24%  16%  27%  62%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 165(-4) bugs open of 677(+17) total
        + Started to double-count more classes of regression, to split
          them out more easily: Crashes, Borders, Migration
                + temporarily distorts graphs
                + encourages fixing of these bugs

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 65 (+3)
        + Presentation - 21 (+0)
        + Spreadsheet  - 16 (-5)
        + Crashes      - 16 (-2)
        + LibreOffice  - 15 (+1)
        + Borders      - 11 (+0)
        + Drawing      - 11 (+0)
        + Database     - 7  (+0)
        + Writer / RTF - 5  (-1)
        + Migration    - 6  (+2)
        + Basic        - 2  (-1)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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