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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:13:21 +0100
From: Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@suse.com>
To: libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, Libreoffice-qa 
<libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
        + Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras,
          Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
        + add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
        + poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras)
                + ran the test kit on LibreOffice, passed with warnings
                + clean uninstall modulo
                        + not un-installing fonts - a feature
                + file signing issues - need to sign executables
                + tested on 64bit Win8 - works nicely.
        + update the splash-screen image for 3.6 (Astron)
                + contest ongoing ... targeted for Beta3

* Pending Action Items
        + [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Bjoern)
                + all of the templates in modulo BrightBlue problems
                        + these show up only in the product
                + ready in a branch for merge before Beta2

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6 / Beta 1 retrospective
                + delayed by deluge of commits just before FF.
                + misc. problems caused by one-off gbuild migrations
                + testing much encouraged here:
                        + not enough new 3.6 specific bugs
        + 3.6 / Beta 2
                + Monday freeze - want all late-features in by then.
        + 3.5.5
                + thanks for all the patch reviews !
                + linux build host failed, Fridrich re-built a replacement
                + rc1 builds up-loaded, deadline for rc2 is in 25th June
                        + longer window than usual

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + checked-in with a few students this week

* Late features for Beta2
        + Windows 7 / UI improvements needs 2x more reviews.
                + Astron: approved the look - with some bug fixes
AI:             + provide 3rd review of it (Markus)
        + calc: data-bars & color-scales (Moggi)
                + Beta1 has most of the core changes for the feature
                + dialogs & ODF changes were missing & need review / merging
                + ~1k lines of change
AI:             + mail this evening for that (Markus)
AI:             + review Markus' changes (Kendy)
AI:             + sanity check UI of Markus' changes (Astron)
AI:             + final sanity check of Kendy's issues (Eike)

* UI / design update (Astron)
        + icon licensing
AI:             + send out some mail addresses to poke (Astron)
AI:             + poke Tango authors (Michael)
        + default document / style-loading before feature-freeze
                + not quite ready yet
                + limited font selection annoying / is it worthwhile ?
                + needs testing, as to whether updating the std. styles
                  alters future documents, and/or impacts performance
                => punt to 3.7 post discussion
        + discussing promoting style use (Kendy/Mirek)
                + show styles in a drop-down
                + with a sub-menu for improving the styles

* SQLite vs. HSQLDB for base (Lionel)
        + SQLite very sloppy typing can cause serious problems cf.
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
                + no date/time datatype.
                => perhaps not a good idea to switch to sqlite
                   longer term
                + without tons of special casing, get lots of
                  nasty bugs outside string, float
        + a new candidate with sane licensing, sane language,
          and code size required - thinking ongoing.
        + our best shot might be firebird
                + MPL license variant
                + feature set looks good

* Idiots' guide to using gerrit (Bjoern)
        + postponed for next week

* Exciting - existing user profile / upgrade bug tracker:
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
        + potentially split this out into the 3.5 regression
          breakdown

* gcc 4.7 builds (Bjoern)
        + is anyone building regularly with this ?
        + latest Fedora building routinely with that (Stephan)
        + mostly just new warning cleanup
        + found an internal compiler error (Bjoern)
        + subsequenttest failure (Bjoern)
        + UNO bridges over-aggressive optimisation fix (Stephan)

* MSI cross-compile / packaging (Mitch)
        + Elidh making good progress, sees MSI files created
          by the code...

* re-basing update (Michael)
        + so far ~4k / 60k .[ch] files re-based
        + more aggressive string cleanups etc. are now welcome in
          any file containing the new header ie.
          git grep 'This file is part of the LibreOffice project'

* QA update (Rainer)
        + bugzilla script failing
                + Petr to help sort it out after call.
        + bugzilla submission assistant
                + ~25 open bugs currently
                + commit to git & poke Thorsten development cycle
                + plea to Rob Snelders to help out :-)
        + funding Tollef to improve bugzilla ...
                + substantial speedup, OpenID, extensions,
                  reporter invitations etc.
                + board approved fundin, pending SPI ack.
        + 3.6 - is it being tested (at all?) ...
                + please start to use and test it...
                + only 15 open bugs as of now
                + QA call to discuss options
AI:             + post on-line update numbers for 3.6 users (Kendy)

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 68 open (of 231) older 67/229 67/226 62/219 60/213 67/211 68/205 71/205 68/199 74/201
             29%                   29%    30%    28%    28%    32%    33%    35%    34%    37%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 3 open (of 19) older 4/15 8/13
             16%                27%  62%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 167(-6) bugs open of 614(+5) total

        + Started to double-count some classes of regression, to split
          them out: Crashes and Borders
                + temporarily distorts graphs
                + encourages fixing of these bugs

        * Component    count net *
        + Writer       - 67 (-1)
        + Presentation - 18 (-3)
        + Spreadsheet  - 18 (+0)
        + LibreOffice  - 15 (+0)
        + Borders      - 12 (-2)
        + Crashes      - 12 (+1)
        + Drawing      - 10 (+0)
        + Writer / RTF - 6  (-1)
        + Database     - 7  (-1)
        + Basic        - 2  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

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