Hi,
here are the minutes for todays ESC call:
attendees: Norbert, Eike, Rainer(?, seems to have dropped from the call),
Kendy, Petr, Stephan, Lionell, Markus, Cedric, Caolan, Bjoern
* Completed Action Items
+ Add GSOC tasks to the wiki:
+ fwd. Eike Svante's multi-user proposal (Thorsten)
+ layout / toolkit conversion task (Caolan)
+ bunch of ideas / slide-show re-work etc. (Thorsten)
+ take updated ESC composition to the board (Thorsten)
* Pending Action Items
+ [still pending] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
+ [ongoing] respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
+ Add GSOC tasks to the wiki:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
+ [ongoing, ETA today] multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
+ add graphical conditional formatting task (Kohei)
+ better template translation (Andras)
+ [ongoing?] post results of exception analysis shortly (Michael)
+ [ongoing?] cost and usefulness of exceptions proposal (Michael)
* Action Items review
+ gerrit call minutes, please have a look (Bjoern)
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-gerrit-documentfoundation-org-call-2012-03-01-tc3813352.html
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.1 is out today, looking good
+ 3.5.2 code freeze on Monday
+ please provide patches RSN
+ reviewers greatly appreciated
+ 3.4.6 status
+ test build are available
+ on track for ~Wednesday
+ last 3.4 micro, it fits nicely that 3.5 is already in
great shape
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ tomorrow candidates will learn about possible projects
+ please prettify task (code pointers etc.)
+ now is the time to get students involved
+ EasyHacks do _not_ have to be completed yet, but by application time
+ help possible students to get up to speed with build and EasyHacks
* QA update (Rainer)
+ Rainer seems to have dropped from the call
+ still a short discussion on regressions and release plan
+ little optimism wrt to release plan changes being relevant
to improve the regression situation, but open to concret
proposals
+ there are three kinds of bugs: (Bjoern)
+ regression
+ bugs since the beginning of time
+ feature request
+ ... and bugs in new features (Lionell)
+ the last one is one we should have a closer look at
+ as for regressions, we should care about having them
weighted by severity (Petr)
=> realistic data hygiene in bugzilla
+ first QA last Friday, please have a look at the minutes (Bjoern)
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-LibreOffice-QA-call-2012-03-09-15-00-UTC-tc3813349.html
* ad-hoc topic: git submodules for non-core repos (Norbert)
+ sounds good to use a preexisting solution instead of homegrown
tooling (Thorsten)
+ alternative: handle other repos like external libs/tarballs
(like libwp*)
+ external lib solutions exist (oo.lst and friends) and is tested
+ binfilter is still updated quite regulary and would likely hurt by
this (Stephan)
+ load/mirroring/latency issues with regular tarball updates (Petr)
+ so we really want submodules for binfilter and ext-lib for the rest,
but without the duplicated work? (Bjoern)
+ another possibility would be to teach ./download to use
"git archive" directly
+ still might cause quite some extra load
+ introduces explict git dependency in ./download, might or
might not be an issue for packagers (Bjoern)
* summer time, when will be the next call? (Norbert)
+ call is set in UTC and does not change without explicit notice
(Bjoern)
AA: + announce very loudly if the call changes slot in UTC timezone
(Michael)
+ 17:00 local might be preferable to quite a few (Eike)
AA: + is that 1700 CET or CEST? (1600UTC or 1500UTC)
corrections and additions welcome.
Best,
Bjoern