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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:00:00 +0000
From: Michael Meeks <michael@ximian.com>
Subject: minutes of ESC call ...
Reply-To: michael.meeks@novell.com

* Present:
        + Norbert, Eike, Stephan, David, Bjoern, Caolan, Rainer
          Andras, Markus, Fridrich, Michael, Thorsten, Cedric,
          Petr, Michael S, Kohei

* Completed Action Items
        + dig out more Windows 3.5.0 installation bugs (Rainer)
                + interacting / pending configmgr fix in 3.5.1
                + somewhat overrated problem
        + adopt the new bug state / meanings proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)
                + it is working now.
        + please send Michael nominations for new ESC members for proposal
          & vote next week (All)

* Pending Action Items
        + [no progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
                + accelerate external movement of Linux build hardware (Kendy)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
        + [ongoing] respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
                + call today on the topic

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.4.6
                + deadline slipped one day March 6th RC1 deadline
        + 3.5.1 release bits / status
                + RC1 was out Wednesday, want a weekend for QA to test
                        + tag for RC2 on Monday 5th
                + stick with a 3 week cycle for 3.5.2 to catch up
        + slightly nervous about volume of fixing in 3.5.1 RC2
                + lots of good bug fixes going in there
        + libxml status (M.Stahl heroism appreciated)
                + go back to system libxml on Mac, PPC looks much better

* GSOC update (Cedric)
        + we have one week (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
                + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
                + Michael S. again creating them
        + filed application on Google / Melange
                + Cedric / Fridrich co-administrators
                + happy to have more admins etc.
        + drastic action / brainstorming on ideas required
          Add these tasks to the wiki
AA:             + add graphical conditional formatting task (Kohei)
AA:             + Publisher importer + one other (Fridrich)
AA:             + wrapper for MS compiler for autotools usage (Norbert)
AA:             + layout / toolkit conversion task (Caolan)
AA:             + calc filters performance improvements (Kohei & Markus)
AA:             + l/strace-alike for UNO (Stephan)
AA:             + table styles (Cedric)
AA:             + bunch of ideas / slide-show re-work etc. (Thorsten)
AA:             + refactor god objects (Bjoern)
AA:             + multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
AA:                     + fwd. Eike Svante's proposal (Thorsen)
AA:             + better template translation (Michael)
AA:             + add specific writer / layout unit test task (Cedric / Michael S.)

* ESC composition
        + Nominations:
                + Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual)
                + Markus Mohrhard (Individual)
                + Stephan Bergmann (RedHat)
        + no objections whatsoever => adopted
AA:     + take to the board (Thorsten)

* QA update (Rainer)
        + nothing to report - business as usual

* Pretty pictures of bug trends ...
        + consensus that writer has very few unit tests
                + and the largest need for them
                + added macros test for writer (Markus)
                        + can also test layout code
                + Miklos started to write RTF test cases
                + anything that stops people writing unit tests ?
                        + Cedric / Michael blocked huge bug stack to fix
        + random writer regression samples, many from 3.3 to 3.4 (Bjoern)
                + the historic big merge issue ? / quality of what was merged ?
                + yet few remembered here ...
        + regressions - lots of RTF / DOCX filter related bugs
                + new / immature / but much improved code there
                + again potential / fixed duplicate / merge issues
        + writer fundamentally harder to test than calc
                + layout dumping of XML to plain text
                        + built-in / hidden export filter
                        + good to run across lots of files
                + lots of regression cases related to layout
                        + so export to text is not enough
        + SUSE interns currently working on 'real' unit tests for writer.

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 52 (of 145) open last weeks: 49/140, 44/132, 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
                36%                     35%,    33%,    33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 109(+6) bugs open of 359(+16) total

        * Component    count net *
        + Writer       - 47 (+4)
        + Drawing      - 10 (+0)
        + LibreOffice  - 10 (+0)
        + Presentation - 10 (+1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 7  (-3)
        + Database     - 6  (+1)
        + Basic        - 3  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

* Graph attached ...

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