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On 03/18/2011 02:47 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:
Hi Erich,
Am 17.03.2011 22:39, schrieb Erich Christian:
Hi @ll,

We have finished the first step of our move and are up to prepare
Silverstripe and the iso generating scripts on libreofficebox.org for
multilingual use.

Like we do ourselves we're thinking of offering subdomains to every
interested NL team for the use as a website concerning the dvd and a
second sublevel domain to be used for development of the dvd ui. The dvd
ui can be exported together with all linked files prior to an upcoming
release of a dvd into static html, the iso file will be generated by
script from this export.
At the moment iso distribution still works manually but we're also up to
create a smooth workflow in this concern, which will feed the isos to
mirrorbrain and bittorrent in the near future (as we're on the
appropriate server now).

We're looking forward to hear from you what kind of subs you would want
to use, just for example could be es.libreofficebox.org together with
devel.es.libreofficebox.org or whatever fits better to your requirements.

We have also created a simple landing page and contact form in english
to start with and so offering an easy approach for the community, it's
going to be available via www.libreofficebox.org.


Maybe you should put a link to http://de.libreofficebox.org/ on the landing page as an excellent example as long as there are no other websites.

Or even put a menu point "International Sites" on it as it is on libreoffice.org.

Show what you guys have done yet, it is a great job to see it.

Are these sub-sites just English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, etc., translations for the German version, or will they be their own versions of the original site with content differences and such?

What happens with the projects that are different than the original site, like our North American project? Will it become something like "north_american.libreofficebox.org" ?

I would love to see one place where all the different projects will be seen and the visitor can choose to go to each project's page[s] and DVD offering. Currently there are several DVD projects being worked on. It would be nice to have all of these DVD projects listed in an easy to find place so the visitor to the site can find the "right" ISO download for their needs. Also that list could include places for the visitors to find the groups that are offering physical media for sale. The "old" OOo site use to have such a list, but Oracle's new site is lacking a lot of the mirror and purchase sites that they had when Sun was in charge. I know several people in my building who asked me about where they could purchase the DVD. These people do not have fast Internet access or none at all [since the building has a computer center for that use]. So here is my list of "parts" of good "International" site.

1] The main site in English [standard some would say], but if there is the ability for the site to access the visitor's default language, the visitor would be forwarded to the correct language version of the main site.

2] The main site would have a page listing all the different regional projects sorted by language[s] and geographical region[s].

3] There will be a page where the visitor would find places to download the ISO files from these different regional projects, and versions of the CD/DVD projects in as many languages as available.

4] There will be a page that list groups or individuals where a visitor can purchase a physical copy of a DVD or CD so there would be no need to use their bandwidth to download up to 4.4 GB of file size of an ISO file and then burn the ISO to a working CD or DVD for their use. Have this list sorted, again, by language[s] and geographical region[s]. This way the visitor can find a "seller" that is the closest to their location and have the least amount of shipping cost to them.

Actually, a nice marketing "tag line" for the "seller" would be "with ever DVD purchase, we will donate a portion of the sale to LibreOffice and The Document Foundation". I would think people would like that. If it costs $10 USD to make a professionally printed DVD and Case, ant it takes $5 USD to ship it to the buyer, the buyer would not be to unhappy if the seller adds on a $1 or $2 to that price for a donation. So the sale would be $11 plus $5 shipping and processing, with the seller sending a check to The Document Foundation/LibreOffice for each purchase as a donation.

[quote]
"We have finished the first step of our move and are up to prepare
Silverstripe and the iso generating scripts on libreofficebox.org for
multilingual use"
[unquote]

What does this mean? It seems to read that there will be a script that will generate an ISO file "on demand" for the visitor. I do not know about "you" but it takes over 15 minutes to generate a 4 GB DVD on a dual core 2GHz Vista machine.

[quote]
The dvd ui can be exported together with all linked files prior to
an upcoming release of a dvd into static html, the iso file will be
generated by script from this export.
[unquote]

I read this as saying there will be a script in the HTML page that will look into a data base file for all the listed DVD projects and display this list for the visitor to see. Then if there is a new project to be added to the list, you add it to the data base file and not change the code or scripts on the HTML page that displays the list.

I like that idea. I use to have a site that half of the pages had the same header, footer, navigation bar, and other parts that were the same for each page. If I wanted to change the footer or add a new page to the navigation bar, I just changed the script file that was being called. For the navigation bar, I passed a value of a variable to the script telling me which page is calling the navigation bar so that page would be highlighted in the bar. The German language project highlighted the page's tab in the navigation bar. That was a nice feature.

Since the North American Community DVD project is somewhere near 95% to 99% finished for its English language DVD, I hope the "libreofficebox.org <http://libreofficebox.org/>" site would soon have other project's work available for download as well as their DVD.

By the way. The "libreofficebox.org" site is in English [or at least shown with my browser], but the download page is in German.
"http://web.libreofficebox.org/download/";

Is the "http://libreofficebox.org/projects/"; page where you will be listing the different projects?

As I said, our project is near completion and would be nice to list it there, if possible. URL project's URL is the following:

http://libreoffice-na.us/ which is our temporary root index page for the web page version, and not for the DVD. It will be a forwarding page/script to the English index page until the DVD contains adds the French and Spanish translation [and content] to the DVD.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html for directly to the English pages, which currently is the only part available in our project. That set of pages started as an English translation of the German language developmental page [3.3.0 version] of "http://de.libreofficebox.org/"; and its DVD. Then we modified the pages and content to reflect the needs of our regional needs and wants. We have the 3.3.1 installs for the help and language files in 7 languages, for all the platforms supported.

The list currently includes the help and language files for: English[USA], English[Great Britain], French, Spanish, Italian, Brazil Portuguese, and Hebrew.

Sorry for this long email as a reply to yours.

Timothy Lungstrom
     webmaster@krackedpress.com / webmaster@libreoffice-na.us
lead team member for the English version of the web site and DVD project.
     Elmira, New York, USA, North America.

Are team currently includes members from Canada, USA, Argentina [for those members I am sure of their locations]
and their names can be found on the root page of our web site.


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