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On 12/29/2012 03:24 PM, Boudi van Vlijmen wrote:
Congratulations! The good news is: Microsoft takes the effort to write a
document against LO&OO! If there is no threath, there is no reason to do so!

    - OpenERP integrates best with LibreOffice and OpenOffice (
    http://doc.openerp.com/v6.1/book/8/8_20_Config/8_20_Config_reports.html)
    and not with MS-Word. (more cost effective than other business solutions)
    - Work tool aware organisations don't fall in the MS overtooling trap (a
    big issue for document management). Work files should be .odf and
    presentation and archiving files should be .pdf
    - MS - Office does not support all .odf 1.2 functionality (comments?)
    - Email clients for desktops will soon be outdated. Not for no reason
    Mozilla stoped with the Thunderbird development Calendering today is a
    typical cloud application.
Or they use their 'phone for their calendering needs.
       - By the way sending documents with email from LO works fine...
    - MS Outlook integration is based on legacy standards causing all kind
    of problems for receivers with no MS software.... (The .dat attachment
    problem)
    - Desktop calendaring (Outlook) will soon be outdated
    - Cloud colaberation tools like Google Drive work fine with OO and
    LO. Who needs colaboration tools outside the cloud?
    - Pivot tables work (different)
    - Last but not least LibreOffice features NO foot in the door file
    format trap! Also called vendor-lock.

So where is the argument?
LibreOffice;
Write is a perfect workdocument editing tool with great archive (pdf)
creation tool integrated,
Calc is a perfect spreadsheet tool with great archive (pdf) creation tool
integrated,
Impress is a perfect presentation creation tool with great archive (pdf)
creation tool integrated,
is a great platform for business administration automation with an
integrated IDE and a nice set of database tools included,

All for less than half the price! ;-)
And LibreOffice  Works on Windows and OSX for the same price.
And Linux

In fact all the USPs for Word, Excel and Powerpoint disappear in a cloud of
dust.
MS clearly tries to sell outdated USPs as unique to the Late Majority. Time
for the Early Majority to switch! Time for LibreOffice!
IMHO, MS is trying to lock users into a software rental model. LO/AOO are much more than adequate replacements for MSO for the vast majority of users. Also, there is no compelling need to continually upgrade unless forced by file format shenanigans (MSOX) or end of life. Are there truly any new features that users find compelling that anyone is promoting? Collaboration sounds compelling but many know there are several ways to collaborate with others that do not require MSO and my impression most do not see this as a compelling reason (or need) to upgrade. Thus, MS is probably seeing a market softening for the traditional MSO packaging and is looking to replace the cash with another income stream that is more resistant to the softening. Thus for MS the problem is that most users do not need the latest version of MSO and can easily substitute something else and meet their needs.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen <http://www.vanvlijmen.nl>

*Open standards or Open Wallets that is the question!*
http://forumstandaardisatie.nl/
Beleidsquote "Rijksdiensten moeten vanaf april 2008 ODF ondersteunen.
Mede-overheden en overige instellingen volgen uiterlijk december 2008.
ODF = .odt voor tekst, .ods voor spreadsheets, .odp voor presentaties"
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument



On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Immanuel Giulea
<giulea.immanuel@gmail.com>wrote:

Hello all,

Microsoft put out a three-page document that hits on some of the weaknesses
of LO (and bundles LO with OOo):

http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/0/D/D0DA0C4B-22DE-40C7-A84D-0C7E03347A9C/Considering-LibreOffice-and-OO-v2.pdf

Is there some materials that can explain the strong points of LO and offer
counter-arguments to what MS says ?

Some of the key points would be:
- lack of calendaring/email
- collaboration tools
- pivot tables


Immanuel

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