Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian domains

Hi :)

No.  I think the work you all have been doing to migrate to better systems is 
great and should continue.  Using a "stepping stone" is a clever way to avoid 
emergencies.  It also means you have plenty of time to prepare the 
goal-website/domain so that it will work much better.  A much better result than 
a hasty ill-considered move!  It is becoming clearer and clearer that a lot of 
thought and planning has gone into this but the first few posts to the English 
lists made a few of us panic because it sounded too hasty.  We know better now 
and are much happier.  


It is also good to hear that your old web-sites/domains will continue to exist 
for quite a while as that allows you to redirect people and gradually get the 
new names well known in places that have become familiar with the old names.  


I wish we could have had such an organised migration from OpenOffice to TDF and 
LibreOffice.  Perhaps now that Oracle seem to have decided to drop OOo there 
might be some chance for us to make a better migration.  


Anyway, good luck and regards to all from
Tom :)





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From: Claudio F Filho <filhocf@broffice.org>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 13:55:54
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian domains

Hi

Em 11-05-2011 09:28, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu:
> 2011/5/11 Charles-H. Schulz<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
>
> > I hope you understand the difference better now. Also, I would like, >> as 
> > another general comment, to remind you and everyone that Claudio
> > is also part of the core team of TDF. I am surprised that he hasn't
> > been more active on this particular topic. That's just my feeling,
> > perhaps I'm wrong.
>
> I am also surprised about the lack of participation of Olivier in this
> discussion. Claudio has his own personal problems and I can't speak
> for him.

Really i am out by personal problems.

But in other hand, i tried to alert in core@ list what happens here some months 
ago, and at final was a talk with some members of SC, without a conclusive 
feedback about this. However, going direct to point.

* Domains *
As Luiz told, i am talking with Florian about the domains.
I already request to redirect www.tdf.org.br -> www.tdf.org, and this question 
will be finished soon.

The lib.o.br, was a thing that we discussed inside of our lists, because the 
broffice.org page is a *well know* in Brazil. Other thing is that we has 
different things inside of our page, like news about ODF/BrO/LibO, migrations, 
documentation and many other things, but is clear now that for TDF is not (more) 
interesting the BrOffice and its history.

* Migration *
As already was explained by Paulo, Luiz and others, we are migrating to wiki and 
SilverStripe, but is many content. Was only a job of 5 years in marketing that 
resulted in a installed base around 15M of desktops with Br/LibO in our country. 
But, ok. We will drop any idea of migration and point all to there and maintain 
the BrOffice.org yet.
A curiosity about this point is that we have all other brazilian domains of each 
project, like mozilla.org.br and postgresql.org.br, working fine with the 
international projects, without problems, and with the respectively recognition 
of international institution or projects, like Mozilla Foundation and 
PostgreSQL.

* Official and not official logos *
About the "warning" in the redirect page in BrOffice.org, we are talking about 
the product. If you remember, before of 3.3.4 was "BrOffice", and now 
"LibreOffice". The brands are correct. About the logo in the main page without 
"The Document Foundation", in the rules[1] say that for "non-official" use is to 
use the "LibreOffice" without the "TDF".
[1]http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy

A strategy that did the difference here and that some neighboring countries are 
looking our (old!) model maybe is not more interesting.

My two cents...

Claudio

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