Re: [libreoffice-marketing] My new slogan.

reversal will occur (which likely will overshoot again). However, it's
> > hard to predict the future. Those trends are really. So more in terms of
> > 10-20 years from now. Or maybe it doesn't happen after all? Time will tell.
> Didn't read every word, but interesting enough. Thanks.

My messages not intended to be thoroughly :P. It's more some unpolished 
thoughts coming to mind.

>   And/so maybe in
> the end it is a matter of philosophy and intention?
That's pretty good summary (why didn't I think of it myself ;- ).

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You may advocate open source system, promote it. However please don’t 
make it a (flame) war/battle. Inf frame of allies and enemies. With good 
and bad believes.
Take any religious clash from history in attempt to ‘convert’ people. 
Never worked, will not work. And lots of causality's. And waste of 
resources. And it even pretty trivial. Why is it necessary that 
everybody in the whole world has the same believe.

However I hope there is some mutual understanding within the open 
source/closed source community (including users) about the importance 
and benefits of open standards. Open standard should obviously being 
kind setup like open source.

I could even think of .dll plugins response for writing the open 
standard (say ODT).  To prevent different interpretations or 
implementation mistakes. Obviously open source too.
Another option is that the homegrown export filter code belonging to 
closed source apps regarding open standard being open source; simply to 
check for implementation errors.

The latter will likely be more problematic as it probably gives insight 
in the internal design (and says something about coding quality). So 
model must be found. Maybe kind of system MS uses for getting peeks into 
their source code. So a kind of permission basis; without high bars.

The biggest risk is closed source using open source without 
contributing. Contributing can take different forms. In development 
time/expertise or say license payment. Else your able to commercialize a 
package of open source components and price it as if you developed 
everything yourself. Not paying the fair share. Or kind of free ride 
mentality and I would call it intellectual theft.

And everybody using open source projects for free is issue regarding 
continuity and sustainability. And only being mentioned in the credits, 
is a lovely symbolic gesture but ultimately everything we want money (or 
other stuff which can be quantified in money)

But that’s creates the dilemma. The open source makes really hard to 
enforce contributions of co-developers/ company’s making use of open 
source without contributing their fair share. Code is open in the 
public; with barely strings attached. It’s the power of open source, but 
also the Achilles heel.

Cheers,
Telesto


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