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We should not worry about what MSO or MS Windows does. Sure we should know what they are doing, and what good and bad ideas they come up with. But why worry? TDF/LO will never have even 1/10th of a percent of the developers as MSO has. We do not have people who's only job is to write and rewrite code for LibreOffice. We have volunteer developers and businesses that supply talented developers to help improve our free and open source product. FOSS. Bill Gates makes jokes about free software and communities. So why bother worrying about what they might produce and how we can compete in their "one sided" market.

We will never be able to compete with MSO in the entire marketplace that MSO is in. We do not have to. LibreOffice and other FOSS products are in a smaller part of that larger market. We cannot truly compete in the market for the office suite of the Forbe's top 500 companies. We should not even try. We have gone into the smaller "niche" markets that need an office suite that is going to serve this market's needs. Of course, it is always good for LibreOffice when a company, or government, gets fed up with MS's policies and look for a different, and maybe better, solution for their needs. How many cities and governmental "communities" have dumped MSO and joined the FOSS movement? LibreOffice server their needs. We were freely chosen over MSO.

Yes, we will alway look and see what MSO is doing. Yes, we will alway want to know what our users will want from LibreOffice in the form of options that could be included to make it better. NO, we should not worry what MSO is doing and worry if we do not have a product that has a one-to-one option list as in MSO. Yes, the may do some things better than LO. How long have they been in business to develop and market their office product? LO has been doing this for less than 3 years, as its own organization. So why worry. TDF/LO is growing and improving on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. Spend time and effort in that, and not worrying over what MSO it doing.


On 02/12/2013 11:54 AM, Károly Papp wrote:
Great thanks. Working on it. :)


2013/2/12 Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>

Karoly,

That's the text you should read about our marketing strategy. Not
because I wrote it (it's only the report of a meeting and decisions)
but because you'll find many questions answered there about where we go
and how we work. Also, we do have marketing conference calls on a
monthly basis (at least we try):


http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/10/21/marketing-workshop-2012/

Best,
Charles.


On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:28:05 +0100
Károly Papp <pkaroly82@gmail.com> wrote:

I have to argue with Charles.

Although I am a new subscriber on this list (a great team so far :)
), I have a different point of view.
LO has to compete with MSO on a feature by feature basis, since
people who are using MSO now could turn their eyes on LO. And what
will they ask? "Can it do it?" And if there is something that you
can't do, they won't make the change. And that will be a nail to Free
Software's coffin.

On the other hand I completely accept Charles's point of view about
"featureset + support + availability + community + FOSS + contributing
ability". THAT is the advantage that matters. But that is the thing
that doesn't (yet) fully works. I can't easily find any promotional
stuff, and that hurts pretty much. And no educational material. Try
it. Google for "learn microsoft office" and next google for "learn
libreoffice". See the diference?

And no, we won't see MSO on Linux. :)
K


2013/2/12 Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>

Hello,


timofonic timofonic <timofonic@gmail.com> a écrit :

Hello.

As some of you probably know, there are rumours about Microsoft
porting Microsoft Office to Linux. While this may not happen,
there's the possibility this can someday happen.

What about if it happens? What are the advantages of LibreOffice vs
Microsoft Office? Despite being Free Software and at no cost
(that's relative, you would still require some customer support
too), I wonder about the rest of advantages LibreOffice have and
if the weak points are relevant to certain organizations (NGOs,
companies, government institutions...).

You know, Libreoffice is already competing on the same terms on
Windows. In general, trying to find out what specific product value
might be differentiating might not be too helpful. We are not
competing on a feature by feature basis, but rather on a community
and global value, something like featureset+ support+ availability
+ community + FOSS + contributing ability. All this put together is
a bit difficult to express in marketing terms, aside by using and
promoting our community, hence our decision not to do traditional
marketing.

But on MSOffice on linux  I wouldn't be too worried :-)

Best,
Charles.

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