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That's hell of a good point.

I think instead of using, which could bring some potential compatibility
issues, we could do something a little different.

A lot of people today use their e-mails.

What if... We created some sort of "mail" template, that companies could
use internally, and that would have for purpose to give "guidelines" for an
Open Source / Free desktop ?

Like "You want to free software at home ? Here's what the Document
Foundation and (the company's name) would advise for you".

And then a list of a few pieces of software, with an explanation, what it
does, alternative of what, and then a link for download.

Better than a CD right ? Especially since netbooks nowadays and even quite
a lot of laptops can't even use it...

What do you think ?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Timothy Butterworth <> wrote:


I had some end users once that like I am sure we all have expierenced
upgraded to the latest MSO then began demanding it at work for file
compatability for items they were working on at home and bringing into the
office. Most of course were rather upset they spent so much on MSO then had
to select the old file format to save their work. At this same site sadly I
had users that though we should provide them licenses for MSO at home due
to a corporate discount purchase program they did not really understand at
the time. Some of course did not care and still thought it should be free
to use at home.

I found one good way to get more support for getting ride of or atleast
cutting down on the number of MSO licenses. I started having our help
desk/service desk at the time, before LibreOffice, hand out CD's with installer including manuals and templates. The more users
that started using it at home also started wanting to use it at work as
well over time.

If your employer permits and before any employees or other organizations
start utilizing the new MSO I would seek some small funds to distribute
LibreOffice to all users for home use. It may atleast head off one headache
and save them all a lot of money. Adding on some other nice apps like
Scribus Desktop Publishing may eventually help with the push to eventually
get ride of Adobe write/reader, one of my dreams come true.

It would be nice if LibreOffice eventually offered a very light weight PDF
reader application bundled as well as a Ebook reader and Ebook
writer/publisher application. Maybe eventually OASIS ODF will eventually
also include a ebook format as well. That will be a good day.


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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Tom Davies <

Hi :)
I'm not sure it's really worth it even if that was $100/yr to cover all
the lists.  Usually the adverts are not so bad.  I'm just having a bad
day as work is committing to spending more moeny on more MS 2010 licenses
now that MSO 2013 is so imminent.  Which
a) ensures we yet again get stuck with the older version while everyone
else moves onto the newer one
b) is an expense we can't really afford right now and blocks me from
things that really do need to be done
c) how much more agro do they need from MSO before they realise they've
never had any trouble with LO.
d) guess who has to install the pos!!
[sighs deeply]
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 17/8/12, drew jensen <> wrote:

From: drew jensen <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Nabble: friend or foe?
To: "Tom Davies" <>
Date: Friday, 17 August, 2012, 17:30

On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 17:21 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Nabble has adverts.  Usually i ignore them.  This time i noticed that
all the adverts were trying to encourage me to spend money on MS products
or to spend on training to use MS stuff better!

1.  6 common big Excel errorsSee free article on how to avoid 6 most
common errors people

2.  Access/Excel VBA TrainingWe offer the added advantage of being

3.  Buy Office 2010 Only $69Complete Full Version! Buy and Save Order
Today And Download<>

4.  Excel TrainingPublic or Customised Excel Courses Half or full day.
Your site or

Are these adverts provided by google?  If so then aren't they supposed
to be supporters of TDF?  Where should we complain to?  Could we get
adverts up for the Docs Team's printed guides available through Lulu (for
free, to make amends)?

Regards from
Tom :)


The ads are not from Google, at least I believe that is correct.

We could turn them off totally - but that would require some money - not
a lot, roughly $100 USD per annum was the estimate I came up with about
5 months ago.


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