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Hi Fabian

Le 2012-06-09 09:31, Fabian Rodriguez a écrit :

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On 06/09/2012 04:10 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
I would like to propose this:

That the "LibreOffice in the Press" entries be input into a Google
Calendar that could be read both on the wiki as well as on the website.
The location of the link on the website would be under the "About Us"
button next to the "Events Calendar" button.
The present "LibreOffice in the Press" is really not being used for any
purpose other than the occasional dissection for marketing purposes.
This will raise its profile on our website and create more of a "buzz"
for the product. We could still pull data from this form of reporting
for marketing purposes.

+1, although with a nuance concerning using Google tools. The tasks at
hand and the tools required should be two different decisions here.

I agree we need a better way to share such resources but most
importantly, to welcome and encourage people to keep an eye on such
references and gather+curate them. Using a tool like Zotero - - we could help preserve and curate such content
while making it available to press&  scholars (and the general public
too), and inviting them to contribute without requiring a Google
account. This would be specially useful to people preparing proposals,
studies and research for LibreOffice.. while using LibreOffice + Zotero
:D I am no expert with Zotero, but I know a few. I personally favored
using bookmarking tools (ala Delicious) like Semantic Scuttle because
that's what I knew best, but I am learning about Zotero to use it as I
see more potential there.

Zotero "is free, open source reference management software to manage
bibliographic data and related research materials (such as PDFs).
Notable features include web browser integration, online syncing,
generation of in-text citations, footnotes and bibliographies, as well
as integration with the word processors Microsoft Word, LibreOffice, Writer and NeoOffice. It is produced by the Center for
History and New Media of George Mason University (GMU)." (from
Wikipedia). It's also another way students / researchers in academia are
discovering / using LibreOffice, increasingly.

Regarding Semantic Scuttle, see for an
example - add "+en" to the query for English bookmarks only. Both Zotero
and Semantic Scuttle - - are
similar in the service they'd provide to what Italo Vignoli did at some
point with Evernote: -
which requires an account there, I believe :( Zotero and Semantic
Scuttle are also free, open source software which can be implemented on
TDF's own servers for mutual benefits.

When you think about this kind of approach it is very consistent with
the TDF mission and goals. Yes, it requires more effort&  time but we
need to aim for this in addition to the easy / quick solutions first. In
fact Semantic Scuttle/Zotero can be used to feed other information sources.

I recently was hospitalized after a surgery that had some complications
so my time is limited for this during the next 4-8 weeks, but I am
gradually coming back to online  / FLOSS consulting activities. This
reminds me to focus a bit more on gathering such resources (press) in
either/both my Zotero/Semantic Scuttle accounts, so in a few more days I
may be able to better make my point and help more with this. If others
feel this makes sense we can work together, otherwise I am happy to
share my resources and compare results later on so the best decision can
take this forward.


Fabian Rodriguez

Sound good. I am all for seeing LibreOffice tools being used for any work. It would be nice to see an example of this at work, just to see how much of a learning curve our members would need to use such a system.

Maybe, in the meantime, we could set up a Google Calendar and if Zotero (this seems to be the one that most academics are using with LibreOffice -- just by the feedback I have read on many LibreOffice lists) could take care of managing such a list as well as preserve/curate the list works out, we could transition to it.

This would also go a great way to show the ability of the LibreOffice+Zotero combo of doing more that just academic value usage.

If you have time later on, feel free to mount a "proof of concept" page on the wiki so that we could see it at work.

Take time to heal! I am also on the mend from some life-changing surgeries. Life is full of surprises.



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