On 3/11/2011 4:36 PM, drew wrote:
Yup. Google Apps (which includes Docs) and, I'd argue to a lesser
extent, Microsoft Live.
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 19:22 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
On 03/11/2011 07:04 PM, drew wrote:
or marketing group. Since they have several college/universities in the
Cornell is a major player in status for New York State Colleges. A lot
of major research
partners with industries at Cornell.
Actually from what I can see MSO is not the competitor any longer, not
in the USA and not in Education - it is Google Docs.
I just want to re-emphasize Drew's assertion and go a step further.
The relative importance of office suites is in flux. In terms of
importance, collaboration is ascendent. This means having, not only
productivity tools but, document management (i.e. versioning) and
For the last 4 or 5 years, MS' lunch has been eaten in the higher
education space, not by other applications but by Google Apps. And this
is only because Google is the furthest along in recognizing the tools
important to collaboration. MS is late to the party but, it'd be
wishful thinking to believe they won't stay & fight.
I live & work in the San Francisco Peninsula. The community college
system in San Mateo County hands out branded gmail & apps to every one
of their students, faculty & admins. That's over 25,000 students &
what, maybe another 5,000 staff across three campuses. Students
collaborate on projects, receive and send homework, schedule and synch
their schedules. A lot of them don't bother to pack around a computing
device larger than their mobile phone. They use their lappies at home
and desktops "in the lab." It doesn't matter because it's all on their
school-branded cloud serviced by Google.
Another example: A small group w/in a County agency is staffed by
volunteers (me included). Of course, with a volunteer staff the
organization suffered from regular turnover and bizarre scheduling
requirements. The group needed collaboration tools: document management
and group calendaring. No IT budget and a very restrictive (and old) IT
policy, i.e. nothing gets installed that isn't on the blessed list. We
fired up a domain, handed it over to Google and now the organization is
running better than it ever has. Higher quality services, fewer
mistakes, the whole enchilada.
The company I work for is spread out. It lives & breathes
collaboration. Right now, it's laboring in part because our IT works in
centralized fashion. They also have a "blessed list" and a process with
many checks and balances. It blunts our effectiveness. I didn't call
for a roll-out of (then) OpenOffice because that was only going to solve
one of our secondary problems concerning collaboration. I showed my
boss Google Apps and now that's a possibility.
Google's productivity suite is too basic for our needs regarding text
editing and spreadsheets. But they're getting better. What we are
considering now is; whether the other collaboration tools (email,
calendaring, storage) justify enrolling in Google Apps now. I even
tried an OOo add-on which makes it easy to down- and up-load doc to
Google storage right from the app. Didn't work too well though but,
that effort does point in the right direction.
If you've read this far, I apologize for the heft of the post but, I
promise to end it soon.
All of this is why, when I first posted to this list, I asked about a
roadmap. I think LibreOffice is a quality application which needs to
become a quality Collaboration suite. I don't know what that looks
like. But that's how people are working today, which is why Google & MS
are moving in this direction.
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