Re: [libreoffice-marketing] distribution & sales

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> How about if we look at Cannonical's method of distributing free Cds and
> also
> selling them from the same website.  It seems sad that they view their free
> shipit service as a money losing service without their sales point
> contributing
> profit to shipit.
>
>
> The shipit service states that it takes 4-6weeks to deliver and it is a
> little
> more difficult to reach on their site.  Since costs of buying a batch of Cd
> are
> so low i would guess that many people just take the easier, faster route
> and
> just buy.
>
> In my country we have to pay tax on top of most imported goods over a
> certain (&
> very low) value and i have been caught-out by this one time when ordering
> OpenSource products.  The cost to me almost doubled.  One problem is that
> the
> cost written on the box is the taxable amount so if i order from shipit but
> make
> a donation to them then i don't get hit by an excessive tax but if i use
> their
> shop i can only order 5 at a time.
>
> Of course the cost on the box is nowhere near covers the value of the items
> to
> me.  If i had to buy an equivalent from MicroSquish then the cost would be
> about
> £120 per Cd and i could not afford to pay the tax on that!  Not even for 1
> Cd.
>
> I could buy an official and very smart looking Cd from someone inside this
> country but their mark-up tends to be quite high.  Not as high as taxes
> tho!
>
> If we could organise for our product to be distributed in a variety of
> ways,
> particularly by having a distributor in each country and linked to from the
> other ditribution websites then we mght stand some chance of getting our
> product
> out there and hence raise demand.
>
> At the moment it seems important to hide our product so that no-one knows
> about
> it and no-one wants it and we compound this by being very restrictive on
> the
> ways of getting the product.
>
> Has anyone in here had any marketing training or any experience?


Marketing. Yes. One thing I might observe is that this thread (and related
threads on the CD topic) are really about sales, not marketing.

Cheers,
jec


> I was hoping
> to learn a lot by joining this list but instead i seem to 'have to'
> continually
> point out some very very basic stuff.  I had a similar experience with
> Wolvix
> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix
> and they were extremely resist to the basic stuff.  Despite them, by
> ignoring
> them and getting the word out there along with a few others in their
> community
> we got them from 97th on the DW site to 9th!!  However we were given so
> much
> agro by the top people that a few of us just left and now they have dropped
> of
> the bottom of the top 100.
>
> Please can we try to get our product out there and known about and talked
> about?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Johnson <davefilms.us@gmail.com>
> To: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> Cc: marketing@libreoffice.org; marketing@us.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Wed, 29 December, 2010 13:38:58
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: I'm back in the game.
>
> Thank you. I will endever to only do good for the TDF and LibO. I pledge to
> all of you that I will do no harm to either.
>
> Dave Johnson
>
> On Dec 29, 2010 6:39 AM, "Charles-H. Schulz" <
> charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm sorry if my words came out harshly. It was not meant to discourage
> you; the thing is that we have to face more and more situations where
> people are taking advantage of our names and trademarks.
>
> Here's what I would like to propose to you: let's set up an
> initiative somewhere on our wiki and perhaps draw inspiration from the
> Distribution project of OpenOffice.org:
> http://distribution.openoffice.org/
> It might not include P2P or distribution over a network but it still
> has some good ideas that I find very practical. What do you think?
>
> Charles.
>
>
> Le Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:26:23 -0600,
> Dave Johnson <davefilms.us@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
> > I'm not going to let a little negative talk dissuade me from
> > fulfilling a need. I see a need in...
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