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I hope this message is in plain text format (I didn't know the reason for the added tags; thanks 
for telling it; this problem is new for me). But if the messiness continues in this message also, 
please, disregard it. Thanks.

I don't know if and what difference there is between the current 'hy'
translation and the most common ortography (is it the "Modern"/USSR1940
Armenian orthography, or something else?) and the proposed hy-RU, but
please resolve this dispute in a sensible manner.

No difference. And yes, the most common Armenian orthography is the "modern"/USSR1940 one.

I have already sent an extensive explanation to Samvel and am not going to discuss the issue of 
Armenian locales any more. I sent that message without including  l10n@global.libreoffice.org 
address to save you from reading my long messy messages. 

Best,
Seda


12.07.2019, 20:15, "Eike Rathke" <erack@redhat.com>:
Hi Stamboltsyan,

On Friday, 2019-07-12 15:13:25 +0400, Stamboltsyan Seda wrote:

 <div>Samvel,</div><div> </div><div>Your explanation is a mess. What you have explained about 
hy_AM is the following:</div><div> </div><div>"<span style="font:small monospace">For 
hy_AM/hye_AM the Institute of Language and Ministry of Education of RA have not yet made the 
official decision. There is an ongoing work on unified orthography, after completion of which, 
it will also be implemented under this code. For now we will use either IR or RU variant for 
this (subject to discussion with the min-edu)."</span></div><div><br />There is NO "ongoing work 
on unified orthography", as you say. And hy_AM has been used for all these years for the Eastern 
Armenian (that is, the main language of ARMENIA) with the main orthography used in Armenia. You 
write: "For now we will use either IR or RU variant for this". Really? Who has decided that? 
Have you asked the opinion of all the other Armenians of Armenia who are going to use 
LibreOffice or any other application localized for Armenia?</div><div> </div><div>Once again: 
the locale name hy_RU for Armenian of ARMENIA is not correct, whether it is used by your 
organization or some others also. A full stop. Don't attach the name of Russia to the Armenian 
of Armenia. And there is NO separate Armenian for the Armenians of Russia, which means there 
just can't be any separate locale for Armenian used in Russia.</div><div> </div><div>Please, 
don't insist on the wrong decision of minority (like you) against the already established and 
correct hy_AM.</div><div> </div><div>S.</div>

(Btw, could you *please* teach your mail client to send proper plain
text as the text/plain message body? Thanks.)

To explain why such crux workaround is necessary from the technical side:

There are 5 variants to write Armenian, as per
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116058#c2
but only 4 distinct language tags. Omitting A.2) 'axm' there leaves us
with 4 variants and 3 distinct language tags. To resolve that from
a *technical* point it was addressed with commit
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=01d9d5b491d03004b3690c2a1ff4d99997e02a5a
which as possible tags added hy-RU and hy-IR.

This has nothing to do with attaching Armenians to Russia or whatsoever.
This is a technical workaround solution, not a political one.

If the IANA language tag registry knew distinct variant subtags for the
different ortographies then all this wouldn't be a problem. To properly
solve this best would be to request such variant subtags, see
http://langtag.net/register-new-subtag.html

I don't know if and what difference there is between the current 'hy'
translation and the most common ortography (is it the "Modern"/USSR1940
Armenian orthography, or something else?) and the proposed hy-RU, but
please resolve this dispute in a sensible manner.

The 'hy' tag default locale is of course hy-AM and whatever the most
common ortography used with Eastern Armenian as used in Armenia is
should be translated under the 'hy' tag.

  Eike

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