Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localisation gone wild

2013.03.11. 0:23 keltezéssel, Christian Lohmaier írta:
> Hi Jelle, *,
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jelle Mulder <pjmulder@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > [...]
> > and probably the odd 10% of all world population that can consider
> > themselves immigrants.
> I disagree here. Why do they use a OS they cannot understand in the
> first place? Either they already own a computer, then they should just
> keep using that, or they have to buy one, but then they could just buy
> a version in the language they understand.
>
> And if you're there to work - how are you supposed to actually do
> work, when you cannot understand the OS - and why let people install
> you software there? So to me it still is a rare corner-case.
In Romania, the 1st localized windows was windows XP (and not natively 
localized, peoples need to install additonal language pack), and the 
windows xp localization is not very good (40%+ of romanina people use 
windows xp), the peoples don't understand, but learned the english 
expressions, and usually don't like the localized version, because don't 
understand the localized expressions (he understand the words, but can't 
connect the word with what is meaning). For this reason 50%+ of windows 
instalation is in english, and usually this peoples don't change your 
regional settings to romanian (this enough to switch the LO installer to 
romanian).

And another reason why people are using English Windows, even though it 
does not speak English, is that in romania 50%+ (in private area 70%+) 
of windows installations is illegal (illegal windows = english windows), 
and in this case peoples disable windows update, the download source of 
the localizations.


> > Oh,.. sure,.. I could plug some Linux distro on it and all my trouble would
> > be over. However, that would exclude me from communicatng with my collegues
> > that run all those nifty malware tools like QQ (some IM) and the like. Nor
> > do Linux distro's support Chinese all that well for those that cannot read
> > Chinese. It exists, but alas,.. the info is all in Chinese and not all of it
> > is in HTML format that I might run through Google Chrome to translate it.
> I can't follow you on the Linux point here. If you don't understand
> any chinese, why install chinese linux? If you cannot read chinese,
> how would you write chinese? (I can only assume you mean how to
> install a IME to write chinese is not documented in "non-chinese"
> properly - but then again - chicken and egg problem - just install
> ibus with a chinese IME and you're done - the times where installing
> an IME was painfull are long over, thanks to all Linux-distros using
> UTF-8 by default now.
>
> > [-..]
> > Come on people,.. if this is the UI/UX department, this issue is right at
> > it's place as this is UI/UX at it's purest.
> Sorry, but you wrote to the l10n list - at least that is what I have
> been replying to..
>
> File a bug an indeed UX would be the correct place to lay out what it
> should offer.
>
> ciao
> Christian


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