[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Ôdp: Ôdp: [libreoffice-l10n] Utter negligence of the Silesian translation

Le 06/09/2019 à 11:15, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
> We piōntek, 6 wrz 2019 ô godzinie 10:34, sophi (sophi@libreoffice.org)
> pisze:
> > Hi Grzegorz,
> > Le 06/09/2019 à 10:19, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :
> > Thank you for the information. However, it's hard to assume good faith
> > if you try to find out what is going on and you get ignored. Not
> > everybody is a programmer and not everybody is able to follow what
> > changes are made to the repository. Apart from that, the information
> > behind the link doesn't answer the question when the language pack will
> > be available.
> >
> > I told you that I'll come back to you when it will be available and that
> > Christian was working on it, didn't I? Christian is doing the release
> > engineering and he has a lot on his plate. If you know somebody able to
> > help him, he will be more that welcome.
>
> Not exactly, you said you'd "keep me updated". You never said you'd get
> back to me when it's done. Keeping someone updated means making sure
> that they know of the latest news. That is the definition of keeping
> someone updated.

I'm sorry, but even if I really would like to, I wouldn't be able to
keep each contributor up to date, so sorry if I said that, I was meaning
when it will be available. We discussed it at the ESC meeting, so the
state is in the minutes published on the QA, dev and projects lists.
> > Furthermore, if a language version was neglected once, it should be in
> > the project's interest to compensate it by keeping its translators
> > informed, not stonewall them.
> >
> > I thought I answered your questions, if you find it's too long, just
> > ping me again and I'd give you explanations (thanks Adolfo for providing
> > them).
>
> You gave me a vague statement that "Christian will provide the lang
> pack", so first I waited, then sent him two emails, and got no answer.

Next time, please ping me, not him, he has already a lot to do.
> >  Let's not forget that translations are
> > done by volunteers, and if volunteers are treated this way, they just
> > lose interest.
> >
> > We are an open source project driven by volunteers, each of us has his
> > own speed and spare time and some areas of the project are lacking
> > volunteers, this is the case for infra.
>
> Perhaps that should have been said in August.

I thought this is already known by community members.
> >  Sure, large languages will just have more and more new
> > people wanting to do the job but what about the small ones that have
> > just one or two translators?
> >
> > I see no large languages or small languages here, all languages are equal.
>
> There are large and small languages. Large languages have millions of
> speakers, small ones have several thousands. Because small languages
> don't have the same resources, projects can very quickly run out of
> volunteers who are willing to contribute in them.

This is not because a language is spoken by millions that it gets more
volunteers, for French, we are two translators and I was alone for
years. So for localization, there is no small or large languages, we are
all equals.
> > BTW did you give a try to Weblate, what's you feedback on it?
>
> I used Weblate before, so however you put it together, I'm fine wit it.

Great, thanks for your feedback.
Cheers
Sophie

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