Re: [libreoffice-l10n] compound strings

On 29/12/2011, at 2:52 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:

> Hi Milos, Martin, *,
>
> 2011/12/29 Martin Srebotnjak <miles@filmsi.net>:
> > 2011/12/28 Martin Srebotnjak <miles@filmsi.net>
> > > 2011/12/28 Milos Sramek <sramek.milos@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have in the new Header/Footer feature of 3.5 for the first time
> > > > noticed compound strings consisting of two separately translated
> > > > strings. For example, "Format Header" is composed of strings Format
> > > > (KeyId _XDs) and Header (b4n3).
> > > >
> > > > Slovak (and other languages) have cases - the Header word must be in the
> > > > accusative case here. Are we sure that the b4n3 Header string is used
> > > > only in such context and not in other, where for example, the nominative
> > > > case should be used?
> > > >
> > > > I would prefer to not to compound strings of other strings. What do you
> > > > think about that? Can we send this message to the developers?
> > > Hi, I haven't noticed that, this should be marked, explained in notes, if
> > > sdf had those...
> > > Will check, but why is this not a single string?
> > > Does that mean that also "Format Footer" is formed from two strings?
> > > This is unacceptable and anglo-saxon-centric, really does not work well
> > > for other languages.
> > OMG, now I saw it, this is horrible - each context menu command must be a
> > separate string, you cannot format context menu commands in the same manner
> > for 100+ languages!
> > Thanks, Milos, for noticing this.
>
>
> See also this thread:
> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg03406.html
>
> I agree that composing strings in such a manner is not okay, and
> should it become a habit with the devs, it's a disaster waiting to
> strike.
> Another such case:
> 7yKt + btRK = "Insert" + " Rows"
> 7yKt + xGzB = "Insert" + " Columns"
> (make a table in Writer, right-click in it, choose Row - Insert or
> Column - Insert, and behold the dialog title.)
>
> I'm not sure if there are more.

Yes, the same happens in the Esperanto version. It does not even put a space between the two words, 
and the case of the second is wrong (naturally).

On the other hand, is this a mechanism for developers to save us lots of work, retranslating the 
same strings over and over, e.g. OK, Cancel?

Donald
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