Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A bug that could be a stopper for the L10N community

Hi,

2011.02.07 17:00, Sophie Gautier rašė:
> On 07/02/2011 17:45, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Martin Srebotnjak<miles@filmsi.net>  
> > wrote:
> > > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=58014
> > > It is quite relevant for L10N teams and international users, even more
> > > for users that have spell-checking, thesaurus and grammar needs in the
> > > languages of their preference. It is present in OOo for a long time,
> > > but there was no will to squash it.
> >
> > There is no easy fix for this, due to the way it works on windows.
> > There are static dummy-document that are then in turn copied to the
> > location where you invoke the contextmenu→New function.
> >
> > So LO/OOo could only fix it by recognizing on open that it is a
> > "shellnew" document and then replace it by itself using a document
> > based on the default template.
> > This is no problem if only OOo/LO is used to modify the documents, but
> > of course when other applications are used to edit the documents,
> > they'd ignore that property and then you risk that LO/OOo will throw
> > away the existing changes when not checking for modifications, etc.
>
> Thanks for your analysis Christian.
> > > Is it possible the L10N list would nominate this bug as a stopper for
> > > LO3.4 or 3.3.2 or whichever version of LO?
> >
> > Well, without a proposed fix....
>
> I agree on that that couldn't be a stopper, however there is a lot of 
> duplicates on the issue, so it shows that it is often meet by a 
> certain population of users.
> What I wanted to do is open the bug on our own tracker to have it in 
> our radar and ask Fridrich to have a look at it.

Here's a possible solution:

step 1) don't put the files into the ShellNew folder. Quick googling 
reveals, that entries can be added to the New File menu using the 
registry instead of the template file. In that case, an empty file is 
being created.
step 2) alter LibO's behaviour: when it's given an empty (0-byte) file 
to open, it should initialize it using the default template instead of 
doing what it does now. And here's what it does:
  * Writer presents a transcode dialog (which makes absolutely no sense 
since the amount of data to transcode is 0)
  * Math creates a valid archive instead of the file, but the archive 
totally empty, and Math's UI is not shown. It looks like Math simply quits
  * I haven't checked other applications. By the way, I gave Math as an 
example just because we don't provide a template for it, so it was quite 
easy to check quickly

Another option would be to suggest the user to change the document 
language if no language is set for a document. But that would be quite 
annoying...

Rimas


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