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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Extended tips and the "What's This?" menu option


Hi Steve, all,

I just verified that I was wrong. The technical part of the problem is
actually solved. Some dialogs already have the Extended tips
implemented. For example

Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Calculate > Wildcards.

(enable extended tips in Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General)

But it seems to be an exception. I foresee a very extensive work ahead
to populate the dialogs with the Extended tooltips (ET) of each dialog
widget. The contents of each ET already exist in the <ahelp> tag of the
corresponding Help page. I guess 60 to 80% of the ETs are there, but
copying them to the dialog files will add translation workload, so it is
better do it slowly.

There is about 2253 dialogs (ui files) in LibreOffice and 2463 Help
pages (xhp), so...

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 29/06/2020 16:06, Steve (GMail) escreveu:
> Thanks Olivier,
>
> Have you any opinion on a likely time-scale for fixing the problem? Is
> this something that the developers are actively working on?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Olivier Hallot" <olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org>
> To: "Kevin Berry" <berrykevin321@gmail.com>; "Steve (GMail)"
> <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Documentation Team" <Documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
> Sent: 29/06/2020 19:01:44
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Extended tips and the "What's
> This?" menu option
>
>> The extended tips are not solved yet in the Help for LibreOffice.
>>
>> It may be removed in the Guide, but it will return when we fix the issue.
>>
>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118148
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Em 29/06/2020 14:51, Kevin Berry escreveu:
>>>  If they aren't functional, should they be removed?
>>>  Gordon Bates
>>> berrykevin321@gmaill.com <mailto:berrykevin321@gmaill.com>
>>>  github.com/jdoes <http://github.com/jdoes>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:54 AM Steve (GMail)
>>>  <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com <mailto:stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Good morning Olivier,
>>>
>>>      Before I joined the project, I understand that these options did
>>>      something useful. (I can't define exactly what or when!)
>>>
>>>      As reported in bug 120538, they have not worked for some time,
>>> since
>>>      the
>>>      Help system was upgraded.
>>>
>>>      In Calc, the Help > What's This? option on the Menu bar appears
>>> to be
>>>      available (not greyed out) but doesn't appear to do anything.
>>> Similarly
>>>      the Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General > Help > Extended tips
>>>      option isn't greyed out but doesn't appear to do anything.
>>>
>>>      In the latest Calc Guide, the text implies that these options
>>> will do
>>>      something useful. The 6.0 Writer Guide gives the same impression
>>> and I
>>>      haven't checked others. I am uncomfortable ignoring the fact
>>> that these
>>>      options don't anything and running the risk of confusing readers.
>>>
>>>      Do we have an agreement about how cases like this should be
>>>      addressed in
>>>      the guides?
>>>
>>>      Regards,
>>>
>>>      Steve
>>>
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