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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updated proposal to support minor updates of published guides, more detail on I10N support added




On 11/22/18 5:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:

> There is a public read only link for that here
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/Ks7n7XroE55tKTg


Under _Major Publication_, there is the sentence/paragraph:

Changes to a Guide chapter structure (adding appendix for example) would
be be expected and should be limited to a major publication cycle.

It should read:

Changes to a Guide chapter structure (adding appendix for example) would
be expected and should be limited to a major publication cycle.

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Quoting the document:

_I have some open questions regarding the last point about the ISBN and
if there might be some legal requirement of a clearly distinct name from
the registered printed book, even if true it is just something to
account for in the work flow._

a) I'm not a lawyer, so this isn't legal advice;
b) I have no clue as to what European law regarding ISBNs is;
c) The law might have changed since I looked into this issue;
d) I'm writing from a US/Canadian perspective;

AFAIK, there is no legal requirement for any book to contain an ISBN.

Bowker wants you to use an ISBN for every possible variant of the book.
If one copy has a green cover, and one has a red cover, Bowker wants you
to use two ISBNs, even if they are otherwise identical. If you have one
variant printed by Ingram Express, and one variant printed by
CreateSpace, Bowker wants you to use two ISBNs, even if they are
otherwise identical.

Booksellers use ISBNs for ordering books.
* As such, each different type of copy needs a different ISBN. The PDF,
Leatherbound edition, cloth bound edition, trade paperback, Braille, and
mass market paperback all need different ISBNs.You don't want the person
who wants a Braille copy, to end up with the Leatherbound edition.
Likewise, you don't want the person who ordered the PDF, to end up with
the Braille Edition;
* If somebody wants the hardcopy for LibO 5.0, you don't want them to
recieve the hardcopy for LibO 6.0. So those two versions need to have
different ISBNs,

The big question independent publishers have, is how much change can be
made, without confusing customers.

Competely different title, same ISBN, same content, will make librarians
unhappy.
Slightly different title, same ISBN, content has undergone additional
spell checking and proofread, won't make librarians too unhappy.

In as much booksellers can find that milk and cookies book, the title
change won't phase humans. Computers, OTOH, are going to remain utterly
clueless about about what "the milk and cookies book" is.(^8)

In the case of minor updates, is the title changing from, for example,
_LibO 6.0_ to _LibO 6.0.1_, or from _LibO 6.0_ to _LibO 6.1_?
More important, is how much the content between _LibO 6.0_ and _LibO
6.1_ has changed?



As far as eBooks go, Bowker thinks that the mpobi, PDF, lit, epub, azw,
etc. all need a different ISBN. (Bowker makes money from selling ISBNs,
so their reasoning for that suggestion is pretty obvious.)

As a practical matter, none of the major eBook vendors use ISBNs.
Indeed, the overwhelming majority of eBooks sold do not have ISBNs,
which is part of the reason why trying to determine the size of the
eBook market is so difficult.
Independent publishers go:
* We sold x copies on Amazon;
* We sold y copies on Apple;
* We sold z copies on Google;
* We sold w copies on that Japanese bookstore;
* We sold v copies through SmashWords;
Each of those organizations does its own thing to the material that was
uploaded to them.

If you're sending the minor editions to CreateSpace or Ingram Select, to
be distributed in hard copy format, then a new ISBN is advisable, simply
because customers will want the specific edition.(^9)

If you're sending the minor editions to CreateSpace, or Smashwords, for
distribution as an eBook, then the ISBN can be dispensed with, becuase
neither of those distributors use ISBNs for eBooks.

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^8: I had way too many customers who came in looking for _Everything I
Need To Know I Learned in Kindergarten_, with their only description
being "the milk and cookies book".

^9: Are books still being printed and distributed by Lulu? Even Amazon
has started to shun Lulu. Brick and mortar stores started doing that
more than a decade ago. CreateSpace for Amazon, and Ingram Select for
brick and mortar stores.


jonathon

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