[Libreoffice-commits] help.git: Mac does have a "Control" key

[sberg]

commit 0205b43e4d518239ff3d6b9bed0cc9317939acd9
Author: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
Date: Mon Apr 24 09:11:24 2017 +0200

     Mac does have a "Control" key
          (even labeled "Ctrl" on my German MacBook keyboard, not "Strg" as the
     localization of "Ctrl" on German standard PC-style keyboards), and Writer's
     "Format - Clear Direct Formatting" (which this help item is presumably about) is
     indeed Ctrl+M (labeled "^M" in the menu) on macOS.
          So unconditionally use "Ctrl+M" here for now, notwithstanding potential Mac
     localization issues (see that German "Ctrl" vs "Strg" issue).

I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to); use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac (as had been done prior to <https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/commit/?id=9ed1958ba7f75bb4184f09d79814849d06313d72> "I don’t think Macs have Control keys…"; or...?

[fito]

I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to); use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac […]

I think the best course here is to revert to the previous state and
label the Mac Control key with its symbol, “⌃” (U+2303). I’ll do that.

Thank you for correcting my brainfart.

Adolfo

[cloph]

Hi Stephan, *,

commit 0205b43e4d518239ff3d6b9bed0cc9317939acd9
Author: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
Date: Mon Apr 24 09:11:24 2017 +0200

     Mac does have a "Control" key
          (even labeled "Ctrl" on my German MacBook keyboard, not "Strg"
as the
     localization of "Ctrl" on German standard PC-style keyboards), and
Writer's
     "Format - Clear Direct Formatting" (which this help item is
presumably about) is
     indeed Ctrl+M (labeled "^M" in the menu) on macOS.
          So unconditionally use "Ctrl+M" here for now, notwithstanding
potential Mac
     localization issues (see that German "Ctrl" vs "Strg" issue).

I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and
translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to);
use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for
non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac (as had been done prior

Even if Macs might have a ctrl key now, most of the functions/commands
are done with the command key, so it is not a mapping of changing the
label of a key in the docs, it is actaully referring to a different
keycombination.

to
<https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/commit/?id=9ed1958ba7f75bb4184f09d79814849d06313d72>
"I don’t think Macs have Control keys…"; or...?

that is wrong. Just replacing cmd with ctrl won't make that shortcut
work with ctrl+M

ciao
Christian