Vote: Elect Jean Weber as Documentation team lead

+1 if she is willing.

Hi,

but did you ask Jean if she's willing to take on this role?

Better to put a firm proposal to her than a hypothesis. Let's see what
the vote returns.

Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér, I take it you're voting +1 then?

+1 from me in any case.

+1 from me.

- Gabriel

Given consent: Certainly.

-mjjzf

+1 if she'll do it! But I got the impression earlier that Jean wanted a rest after all the work she did on OOo.org 3.4.

+1 for Jean

Hi :slight_smile:

+1

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

+1

+1

We are doing this while she is asleep aren't we?

Dan

+1 :slight_smile:

+1

Hi David,

+1 to your proposal,

but did you ask Jean if she's willing to take on this role?

+1

Vote her in while she is not looking :slight_smile:

+1 for her (of course if she wants to :slight_smile: )

Julien Nabet

Regards,
Don

I've been reading this thread with mixed feelings. I am certainly very
happy that you all think highly of my contributions, but I'm not sure
that I'm ready to spend enough time doing what I think a team leader
should do. I guess it would help if I listed what I think those things
are, and what I'm likely to do or not do, so we're all talking about
the same thing.

Just one comment now:
David Nelson said, "If you feel that the team should continue to
operate without any one single leader, with things being taken care of
by the person most diligent at that moment..."

My feeling is that things will have to continue to be "taken care of
by the person most diligent at that moment" because no one person can
(or, IMO, should) be directing all the traffic, and I'm certainly not
going to hand out assignments or track everything that's going on.
That's too much like a job, and I don't have time anyway.

Even with a "team leader" we need several people taking responsibility
for specific topic areas, a luxury we've never had (and only had
briefly, years ago, at OOo). We have a few, but not anywhere near
enough.

I'll write more later.

--Jean

It is nice to have someone directing all of the traffic, but I agree
that is too much to ask from one person. The team leader needs to have
some helpers to whom some of responsibilities should be delegated. The
helpers could do the work for each of their assigned areas and report to
the team leader the results. Suggestions of what might work better could
then be given by the team leader to the individual helpers.

Observation: It is very easy to reply "+1" to making a person the team
leader to keep track of everything and everyone's progress. (Let someone
else do it.) It is much harder to take on the responsibility of leading
a specific topic area with persistence and diligence while only getting
guidance from the team leader.

My experience with Jean's work goes back to OOo 1.1.x days. She does a
wonderful job of guiding others. But she has had to do too many things
for others that they were not willing to do for themselves. (She was the
one to do the most important review of Getting Started with Base that
someone else should have done.)

Maybe we need a need thread in which people volunteer to head the
specific areas of LibreOffice. Perhaps this should be done first. Once
we have leaders there, then might be a better time to have a team
leader. After all, if we are truly a team, we ought to be doing our
part.

These are my thoughts.

--Dan

Actually, after so many years doing much of the heavy lifting, I now
prefer the outward-reaching "ambassador" and inward "advisory" roles.
But at the same time, I can't resist getting involved with the
hands-on dirty work. :wink:

(And a title of some sort can be very handy when talking with
outsiders. I'm still working on a more detailed note on the matter of
team leadership.)

--Jean

Dan, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.

One of the items I want to write up is what areas need people to take
responsibility for, and what those people should do. Of course,
someone else could start the list. Let's do it on the wiki.

--Jean

Hi :slight_smile:
Would this page be useful?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Team/JobDescriptions

If so then it might be great if people could write in a few ideas and then i might be able to tidy some formatting ready for Jean

If the page name is a bit rubbish then we could always create a different one and copy&paste stuff to the new one.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
Would this page be useful?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Team/JobDescriptions

If so then it might be great if people could write in a few ideas and then i might be able to tidy some formatting ready for Jean

If the page name is a bit rubbish then we could always create a different one and copy&paste stuff to the new one.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

> From: Jean Weber <jeanweber@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Vote: Elect Jean Weber as Documentation team lead
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 21:44
> >
> > It is nice to have someone directing all of the
> traffic, but I agree
> > that is too much to ask from one person. The team
> leader needs to have
> > some helpers to whom some of responsibilities should
> be delegated. The
> > helpers could do the work for each of their assigned
> areas and report to
> > the team leader the results. Suggestions of what might
> work better could
> > then be given by the team leader to the individual
> helpers.
> >
> > Observation: It is very easy to reply "+1" to making a
> person the team
> > leader to keep track of everything and everyone's
> progress. (Let someone
> > else do it.) It is much harder to take on the
> responsibility of leading
> > a specific topic area with persistence and diligence
> while only getting
> > guidance from the team leader.
> >
> > My experience with Jean's work goes back to OOo 1.1.x
> days. She does a
> > wonderful job of guiding others. But she has had to do
> too many things
> > for others that they were not willing to do for
> themselves. (She was the
> > one to do the most important review of Getting Started
> with Base that
> > someone else should have done.)
> >
> > Maybe we need a need thread in which people volunteer
> to head the
> > specific areas of LibreOffice. Perhaps this should be
> done first. Once
> > we have leaders there, then might be a better time to
> have a team
> > leader. After all, if we are truly a team, we ought to
> be doing our
> > part.
> >
> > These are my thoughts.
> >
> > --Dan
>
> Dan, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.
>
> One of the items I want to write up is what areas need
> people to take
> responsibility for, and what those people should do. Of
> course,
> someone else could start the list. Let's do it on the
> wiki.
>
> --Jean

     I have uploaded my suggestions to the wiki page listed at the top
of this email. Feel free everyone to add your viewpoints.

--Dan

Hi :slight_smile:
Thanks Dan. It looks fine as it is imo. Nicely done :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: