Updated wiki Install Libreoffice page

Please have a look at:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_LibreOffice_on_Linux

It is updated and already uses the libreoffice.org/download web site.

Rogerio Luz Coelho

Hi Rogerio, :slight_smile:

Yes, I've put it on the libreoffice.org site. I will delete the wiki
page in the New Year. Thanks for the heads-up. :wink:

David Nelson

@David

Ok, but did you see the work I have done on the wiki? It makes things easier
than the way it is displayed on the site...

Please respond if you want me to continue to work on this installation page
...

Thanks

Rogerio

Hi Rogerio, :slight_smile:

@David

Ok, but did you see the work I have done on the wiki? It makes things easier
than the way it is displayed on the site...

Please respond if you want me to continue to work on this installation page

You've formatted it nicely... I will have a detailed look in the next
few days to see if there's the same coverage. If yours seem better
then I will give you a heads-up and you could work further on it, if
you agree. Thanks for this. I'll get back to you (bookmarked
this thread). :wink:

David Nelson

Ok ... because the new Mandriva is easier to install and remove than what
you have and I was going to start to look at Fedora and OpenSuse.

As soon as you give me the ok I'll start working on those too.

If you look closely it is not just a format issue the installation seems
cleaner now ...

But, I'll wait untill you have a look on it .

FYI : All the installation steps work, but the De-installation needs some
work - I was going on to work on this, but since you are going to do a major
change to Libreoffice.org , I'll wait your input

:slight_smile:

Rogerio

Hi Rogerio, :slight_smile:

What you've done makes it easier to read, so I'd definitely encourage
you to finish working on your version. When you've finished, I will
post this new version on the libreoffice.org website.

Could you have a look at
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ and take
account of any useful info there that is currently missing from your
version? Some of the info that is in the current wiki page is or
should be in the system requirements page
(https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/).

Also, the accessibility info is at:
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/

The ultimate publication target will be the libreoffice.org website;
we will ultimately either delete the wiki version or move it elsewhere
to serve as a working copy for drafting future updates.

Thanks for your work on this, and it's good to have you on-board the
docs team. :wink:

David Nelson

Hi David

Yes, I've put it on the libreoffice.org site. I will delete the wiki
page in the New Year. Thanks for the heads-up. :wink:

Please do *not* delete or move this wiki pages!

IMO the wiki is even a better place for this kind of detailed
documentation. And the website should not be overloaded by this.

Moreover, this wiki page is the base for many other pages with
translations into other languages, for some of which we don´t even
have a website.

Thanks.

Stefan

Hi Stefan, :slight_smile:

Please do *not* delete or move this wiki pages!

I *was* the person who created and wrote that page, and it falls under
the scope of documentation, so I'll see about that at a later date. We
may find a more logical place to put it.

IMO the wiki is even a better place for this kind of detailed
documentation. And the website should not be overloaded by this.

IMHO, it is important to have installation instructions in a pretty
prominent place on the web site. IMHO, where it is right now is a
great location. You don't agree?

David Nelson

Hi David,

IMO the wiki is even a better place for this kind of detailed
documentation. And the website should not be overloaded by this.

IMHO, it is important to have installation instructions in a pretty
prominent place on the web site. IMHO, where it is right now is a
great location. You don't agree?

Not really.

IMO the website is meant to be an entry point. People should easily
and quickly learn that LibreOffice is great software, easy to use
and that it´s free. The site should motivate the visitor to use or
at least try LibreOffice and it should motivate people to become an
active supporter of the community.

In this sense http://www.libreoffice.org/ is already doing a fairly
good job, mostly due to your contribution.

<quote>
If John Doe then looks at the installation instructions, he might
probably be deterred again. It looks terribly complex and difficult.
Primarily we should clarify, that installation usually is very, very
simple. (By the way, actually a lot easier and faster than MS
Office!) For special and specific cases we have of course
detailed support articles...
</quote>

IMO there is no need to edit and keep these support articles in the
CMS. The wiki is just the right place.

For example, the german Ubuntu Users Community has best experiences
with http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de. Their only place for support
articles is the wiki. The wiki has a much lower barrier for
potentially contributing authors and thus ubuntuusers.de has a
tremendous high number of competent users, who share their knowledge
and experience via the wiki.

For installing LibreOffice, average users in the very most cases
won´t need any instructions at all. Windows users will just do a
double-click to start the self-explaining installer, just as they
are used to from any other software. Mac users will drag&drop it to
the applications folder, just as they are used to from any other
software. Most Linux Users will install it from the repository of
their distribution, just as they are to from any other software.
Some Linux experts may choose another way, but these users are
skilled anyway.

There surely remains a little percentage of special cases, where the
user needs more information or support for installing. But this
little percentage does not justify a prominent place for detailed
documentation on the website, that carries the danger and gives the
impression that installing LibreOffice is a cumbersome affair.

Stefan

Hi Stefan, :slight_smile:

I did read your entire post, but I must say that I don't really agree
with you. For me, the wiki is rather a chaotic place - there's
different stuff all over the place. Personally, it reminds me of a
hobbyists workshop.

When I download a piece of software, I expect to find the installation
instructions on the site. It sounds like you and I have very different
thoughts about the expectations for the libreoffice.org website...

Maybe it's time to take the temperature of opinion about the content
I'm developing there, and see whether I'm doing a job that really has
the project's approval. I hate wasted work, and the project should
have a website the way it wants. :wink:

Please do contribute your comments on the thread I'll start on the website list.

David Nelson

+1 I think we should have instructions about how to install extensions and
icon sets also.

We do need to simplify the install process for Linux users without relying
on distribution repositories supporting LibreOffice, which mean maintaining
our own apt and him repositories.

Hi Rogerio, :slight_smile:

Give me a few days and I will have a draft that simplyfies all distros
installation ... if you look a the wiki (my work) and the libreofice site
the change is already started.

Great job. Thanks for your help. :slight_smile:

I will be working on this installation file mostly on the wiki (other
projects I work on we do our main documentation in the wiki) BUT I think
that the site *MUST* have the isntall procedure that goes into the
tarball/packages if only because GOOGLE finds it easier than the wiki.

And it seems more "Official" if we have it on site.

I agree with you.

David Nelson