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Ronnie / Olivier,

As promised I have created an initial list of issues with the help files that have been noticed so far during the GSOD2020 Functions Wiki work.

This list can be found in the GSOD2020/WIKI folder in NextCloud, file name "Help pages - problems noticed during GSOD20.odt". We can discuss these during our weekly Tuesday meetings as required.

Ronnie, please have a quick look and see if I've missed any of the issues that you have raised so far. If you spot any more, please carry on emailing them to us. I can do a quick filter / check before adding the issue to the list.

Regards,

Steve

------ Original Message ------
From: "Steve (GMail)" <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com>
To: "GANDHI RONNIE" <gronnie@cs.iitr.ac.in>
Cc: "Olivier Hallot" <olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org>; "Documentation Team" <documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: 25/10/2020 13:57:15
Subject: Re[4]: [libreoffice-documentation] GSOD 2020 - Possible Error in Help pages

Hi Ronnie,

With regards to the MINIFS problem, I agree with you. I propose to keep a list of these minor changes to the help that are identified during the GSOD20 work and will discuss with Olivier how best to fix them.

You are also correct about the POISSON.DIST problem. This will be added to the list above. However, in this case, there is a slightly more significant issue - the Function Wizard contains text which indicates that the parameter is optional when, in fact, it is required. I will raise a bug report on this.

Regards,

Steve


------ Original Message ------
From: "GANDHI RONNIE" <gronnie@cs.iitr.ac.in>
To: "Steve (GMail)" <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com>
Cc: "Olivier Hallot" <olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org>; "Documentation Team" <documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: 25/10/2020 10:46:58
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [libreoffice-documentation] GSOD 2020 - Possible Error in Help pages

Hello Steve and Olivier,

I have found some more errors in help pages:

For MINIFS <https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/scalc/01/func_minifs.html?&DbPAR=CALC&System=UNIX> the 2nd example in "Using regular expressions and nested functions" section the regex is about "book" but description states "pen".

Also in POISSON.DIST <https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/scalc/01/04060184.html?DbPAR=CALC#bm_id2953985> the function says "C" parameter is optional but that is not true. I tried it in Calc.

Please look into the above.

Regards,
Ronnie Gandhi
Undergraduate at Computer Science and Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee
+91-07874243430


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:09 PM Steve (GMail) <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com> wrote:
Ronnie / Olivier,

Section 6.18.37 in the Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) Version 1.2 contains the following statement: “cumulative is a Logical parameter … If omitted, FALSE() is assumed.”.

The 7.1 Help description of this function states that “The cumulative distribution function is the default if no value is specified for this parameter”. It also states that if cumulative is set to anything other than FALSE or 0, then you get the cumulative distribution function. Therefore, there is a discrepancy between the Help description and the ODF.

Moving on to the software, the following fragment of a spreadsheet demonstrates its behaviour. (Note: image wont be visible via mailing list)



This shows that the software is defaulting cumulative to 0, in accordance with the ODF.

Consequently, it looks to me as if the help page is wrong in this respect. It should be changed to say that the default is the probability density function.

Olivier, if you agree, would you like me to make the change via Gerrit?

Regards,

Steve


------ Original Message ------
From: "GANDHI RONNIE" <gronnie@cs.iitr.ac.in>
To: "Steve (GMail)" <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com>
Cc: "Documentation Team" <documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: 18/10/2020 17:20:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GSOD 2020 - Possible Error in Help pages

Hello Steve and Olivier,

I found one more erroneous function in help pages. HYPEGEOMDIST's description of cumulative parameter's last statement is wrong. It states "The cumulative distribution function is the default if no value is specified for this parameter." but I tested and by default probability density function is considered. So changes should be incorporated accordingly.

Regards,
Ronnie Gandhi
Undergraduate at Computer Science and Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee
+91-07874243430


On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 1:58 PM Steve (GMail) <stevemfanning.wh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ronnie,

I agree that the Help page for these two functions could be improved.

I will raise a bug in our Bugzilla system so that the issue can be
progressed.

Regards,

Steve



------ Original Message ------
From: "GANDHI RONNIE" <gronnie@cs.iitr.ac.in>
To: documentation@libreoffice.org; "Documentation Team"
<documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: 04/10/2020 19:05:41
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] GSOD 2020 - Possible Error in Help
pages

>Hello Olivier and Steve,
>
>I could sense an error on the help pages for BETA.INV and BETAINV function. >The definition of Number is wrong. It states Number to be between Start and >End but actually it is the probability which is associated with BETA >function for other given arguments and the output will be that Number.
>
>Compare it with MS excel equivalent
>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/beta-inv-function-e84cb8aa-8df0-4cf6-9892-83a341d252eb
>.
>
>Actually out function works the same way but the description of this Number
>is wrong.
>
>One eg to prove the point is : =BETA.INV(0.5,3,4,3,4) gives 3.42140719069071
>
>But =BETA.INV(3.5,3,4,3,4) gives Err:502 which infact qualifies the
>definition.
>
>Ronnie Gandhi
>Undergraduate at Computer Science and Engineering
>Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee
>+91-07874243430
>
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