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Hello Felipe

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Thinking about Visible Buttons and the extra tools, some points to consider.

1. A really long list of Visible Buttons does make for a long screenshot or a screenshot split into 
parts (as I have done).
2. Listing the Visible Buttons as bullet points would also be long for some toolbars unless that 
bullet list is put into columns.
3. Splitting bullet points into columns means some way of matching the tool position on the toolbar 
to its position in a bullet list.
4. Visible Buttons screenshot follows the left to right placement of tools on a toolbar and is not 

I will put the thinking cap to create a different format.

Watch this space.

Peter Schofield

On 22 Aug 2020, at 03:06, Felipe Viggiano <> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was checking the new appendix suggestion from Peter and I think it would
be a very nice improvement to the guides

As Peter pointed out, I believe this should be in every guide to allow the
user to quickly access some information regarding the toolbars.

I agree with Steve about the list of bullet points instead of the
screenshots of long menus, but in my opnion this should be restricted to
really long ones, giving priority, to the image.

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

Em sex., 21 de ago. de 2020 às 11:08, Samantha Hamilton <> escreveu:

Hi, Peter,

I have taken a brief look at the toolbars appendix, and I really like it.
While I understand how this type of document could become really large,
really easily, I found myself learning basic LO features I didn't know
before. I'm a very visual person, and the images helped guide me through
the different options. I feel that your draft has helped my LO user


 Samantha Hamilton
 darling docs

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 9:52 AM Steve (GMail) <>

Hi Peter,

Thanks for your efforts drafting that.

Some initial thoughts:
I presume that much of the material in the section entitled "Using
toolbars" will be the same for each LO component? If so, would it be
more effective to include it in the Getting Started Guide and
cross-reference from the other guides?
In terms of identifying the options that are assigned to a toolbar in
its default configuration, I think I'd prefer simple lists of bullet
points (rather than screenshots of lengthy menus). Probably a personal
preference, but this approach reduces possible distraction from
different icon sets and ticks, etc. One list of bullet points could come
directly after the screenshot of the toolbar and list the visible
options in the toolbar, from left to right. A subsequent set of bullet
points could list the "invisible" items, presented in the order that
they appear in the toolbar's right-click menu. (I suppose we could also
try listing all assigned options in tabular form, with headings
"Command", "Visible", and "Invisible", putting a tick in the 2nd or 3rd
column as appropriate).
I'm happy to hear other views!



------ Original Message ------
From: "Peter Schofield" <>
To: "Steve (GMail)" <>
Cc: "LibreOffice" <>
Sent: 21/08/2020 09:15:25
Subject: Toolbars in LibreOffice - an appendix?

Hello Everybody

I have place an example appendix about toolbars in Impress 7.0 Drafts
folder. This is to give everybody an idea about my idea of a toolbar
Please review and make comment.
The appendix os only an example and is definitely NOT a finished piece

Peter Schofield

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