Expanding help contend for issue #100568

Hi,

in follow up to issue #100568 in the bugtracker I volunteer to help with the help content for that.

Could someone give me a hint, how and where I get the needed information
(out of the source?) and what to do (process, infrastructure), to extend the help
contend for this topic.

And if this is done and infrastructure set up for that, there ceratinly will be other
topics where I will help from time to time

Thanks a lot, cu in Brno
Lothar

Hi Lothar

Sorry for the late response.

I'm having trouble associating bug#100568 into a help content related
issue. Have I missed something?

But if you are available to address help content issues, we collected
them in this meta-bug:

https://goo.gl/fwL7kO

Let me know if one of these topics pleases you and I'll help you to get
it done.

Kind Regards

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated :wink:

Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me,
what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog
there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the
entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values
and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields
to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a chart).

I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like:
the range in the entry fields für border colour and fill colour must be
filled with the name of the element in the data series
and an integer out of 1 to 9999999, where 1 stands for black and 9999999
stands for white, or somethinglike this.

So, let me have a look inthe meta-bug, if it is covered in the mentioned issues there,
thanI will come back again with the search result.This will last a few days because I'm in
heavy workload with a urgent LibO interop issue from a customer.

Thanks again, Olivier, I will be back :wink:
Lothar

Hi Lothar

Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything
related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in,
because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and
data series.

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568

You can also try to find the help page in this site

http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main0000.xhp

and let me know the troubling page.

Kind regards

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

wow, youare absolut right, thanks Olivier, it is

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100586

I switched the last two numbers, so sorry for that, please
excuse me for that, I will search for the help page and in the
meta bug soon,

Thanks again, Olivier, best
Lothar

Hi Lothar

Mucho better indeed!
I brought back the discussion to the bug page.
Kind regards

Olivier

Hi Olivier,

so here I'm back again, sorry for delay, the last days I had a heavy workload
with interop issues.

First of all thanks for bringing in the issue to the meta bug.

I've searched and visited some issues of them but I didn't find a bug
which seems to cover the same. So afterwards, I searched a little bit in the
Indes you mentioned and I think I found the place, where the description should be
integrated in, see

http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/01/wiz_data_series.xhp#bm_id8641621

It is not covered directly of the index, but with the link "chart wizzard - data ranges" you get there.

So, I'm sure, it is a piity so find out, which XHP file it is, but more road blockers are the question,
where to search for the informations itself ("which form and numbers have to be filled in the range
for fill colours and border colours).

So before adding something tothe XHP file there are two questions:

a) Are there any developer documentations / specifications for the chart wizzard or in detail für
the type of inputs for the second tab of it? As I'm not so far from development (not daily but
sometimes) I think I will be able, to understand such documentations to sort out these informatiosn.
Or a hint where to find the chart wizzard implementation to have a look at the source code.

b) What infrastructure is needed to help with help files?

Thanks alot for some hints or a link with short descreptions for b) to clearify the process,
cu in Brno
Lothar

Hello Lothar

Hi Olivier,

so here I'm back again, sorry for delay, the last days I had a heavy
workload
with interop issues.

First of all thanks for bringing in the issue to the meta bug.

You're welcome.

I've searched and visited some issues of them but I didn't find a bug
which seems to cover the same. So afterwards, I searched a little bit in
the
Indes you mentioned and I think I found the place, where the description
should be
integrated in, see

http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/01/wiz_data_series.xhp#bm_id8641621

It is not covered directly of the index, but with the link "chart
wizzard - data ranges" you get there.

Yes, indeed.

So, I'm sure, it is a piity so find out, which XHP file it is, but more
road blockers are the question,
where to search for the informations itself ("which form and numbers
have to be filled in the range
for fill colours and border colours).

vm173 is work in progress.

So before adding something tothe XHP file there are two questions:

a) Are there any developer documentations / specifications for the chart
wizzard or in detail für
the type of inputs for the second tab of it? As I'm not so far from
development (not daily but
sometimes) I think I will be able, to understand such documentations to
sort out these informatiosn.
Or a hint where to find the chart wizzard implementation to have a look
at the source code.

As opposed to the old OpenOffice.org at SUN's times, I am not aware of
the doc's/spec's of any feature unique to LibreOffice. At best, some
senior developers write the help pages or blog posts, which is much
appreciated, but it is not the rule. Therefore, volunteers pick the
features and, with trial and error, sweat, devotion and abnegation,
write on the subject.

b) What infrastructure is needed to help with help files?

There are 3 ways to edit help files. All need a copy of the helpconten2/
module git in the local machine.

1) using the HelpAuthoring extension. See
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent

2) an experimental on-line text editor in vm173
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OnlineHelpContent

3) plain text edition in your local copy of helpcontent2/

For 2) write me offline to get a login.

Kind regards

Olivier