Hello
Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 8 Connections, Flowcharts and
Organization Charts is now available in the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF
Authors website ready for review and comment.
Regards
PeterS
Chapters 7 and 8 of the Draw Guide v4.1 have been published after
minor editing by me. As always, they are available for further review
by others.
--Jean
Hello
I recently joined the LibreOffice documentation mailing list and decided to begin my contribution by updating Chapter 9 of the Draw guide (Adding And Formatting Text) to version 4.1. It has now been uploaded to the ODF Authors website for review and comments.
Whilst there was not a great deal that needed to be updated, there is one screen shot that will need replacing. The Special Characters dialogue box (Figure 8, on page 9) in the version I am using (LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 on Windows 8.1) is re-organised, with clickable action boxes now found at the bottom of window, along with a new 'Delete Last' box added.
I recall reading in the instructional documentation that screen shots from Mac or Linux operating systems are preferable to those from Windows. As such, I hope that someone will be able to update the screen shot on my behalf.
I also wonder whether the slightly different placement of tabs in the Graphic Styles dialogue box (Figure 10, on page 12) would necessitate replacement of the screen shot. The 'Text' and 'Text Animation' tabs are on the second row in the version I am using but this seems a minor detail.
Regards,
Martin
Hello Martin
We are at cross purposes here. I am updating the Draw Guide to Version 4.1 which means two of us were working on the same chapter. I shall now use your version to complete Chapter 9 and reissue onto the ODF Authors website. This will mean that Chapter 10 & 11 will follow very quickly.
With regards
Peter Schofield
psauthor@libreoffice.org
Hello Peter
I'm terribly sorry; I should have checked before I started.
I've just taken another look at the publications page (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications) and would like advice as to which area I can begin work on. Is the objective to bring all guides up to date (4.1.x branch) or are 4.0.x guides sufficient?
Thanks,
Martin
Not a problem Martin.
Your work has helped me greatly and I am now going through Chap 9, mainly the screenshots need changing. It will be on the ODF Authors website Monday or Tuesday.
I have been upgrading the Draw (4.1) and will complete the remaining chapters fairly quickly. Then it will be onto the Calc Guide to bring up to 4.1. The Calc chapters are being upgraded to 4.0 by other volunteers. I shall then upgrade the chapters to 4.1 so that the Calc Guide has the same look and feel throughout the guide. After that I will be moving onto the Impress Guide which is now at 4.0 to upgrade to 4.1 maybe 4.2. Just have to wait and see.
I think the best bet is to move onto the other LO modules because I think there is a shortage of volunteers to upgrade the remaining modules. I am sure Jean will advise which is the best to have a go at.
With regards
Peter Schofield
psauthor@libreoffice.org
Jean here. General comment to Martin: We've been tending to skip a
point release for Getting Started and the Writer Guide, because we
haven't been able to keep them updated fast enough while at the same
time improving the content, not just updating it. Calc Guide is
something of an orphan and, as you can see, hasn't been updated since
v3.4.
The objective at this point is to finish the Calc Guide to 4.1 and
start updating GS and WG to v4.2. The first beta of LO 4.2 is due out
next week (see Release Plan,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.2 and the Release
Notes, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2
So, my suggestions to you are:
1) Go through Chapters 5, 6, 12, 13 of Calc Guide (currently listed as
LO v4.0) to see if anything needs changing for v4.1 -- or if anything
wasn't updated correctly from v3.4 to v 4.0. Also Appendix C hasn't
been updated from v3.4; you could do that. Other chapters have already
been updated to v4.1, but Peter hasn't been through all of them for
look and feel updates. People are working on Ch14 and Appendixes A and
B. I'm really hoping to get that book done by the end of November.
2) Start identifying which chapter of Getting Started and/or other
books will need updating for v4.2. Add info to this page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks
Also would be useful to go through the existing GS book to see what
else needs updating or improvement. PLEASE NOTE: Most chapters in this
book cover material also included in other books, though topics and
level of detail vary. Therefore, noting necessary updates changes in
chapter lists for other books is very helpful.
3) I am still looking for one or more people to help with updating the
Base Handbook, which was translated from German to English. In this
case, the work involves translating new material that was added to the
German handbook for v4.1. If you are interested in helping with this
work, I can provide more info & point you to the relevant files.
4) Work on Base Guide (different book, written from scratch in
English). If you're interested in that, I'll provide more info. I'm in
the middle of rationalizing chapters of that book following recent
work by Dan Lewis (and earlier work that I've neglected to follow up
on).
--Jean
Which is more urgent, the Base Handbook or the Calc Wiki? I can do
either but not both.
Hazel
Jean,
I would also like to know what needs to be done. I'm ready to help in any
way.
Best,
Preston
Hi 
If i had a vote i would vote for the wiki. There is a previous
iteration of the Handbook but the wiki doesn't have a previous version
at all yet.
Regards from
Tom
Hi
It might be worth sending a mail to the Users Mailing List to recruit
new people for the specific task. A general shout-out grabs some
people but others react better when they hear about a specific task
that is likely to have an end-date (and then stick around afterwards
for "just one more")
Regards from
Tom
Hard to choose; IMO both are high priority, so it's really up to you.
Finishing the Calc FAQs is certainly a good thing to do.
More general comment to other team members: there are other French
FAQs and tutorials to be translated in English, if you feel
comfortable doing that. Please coordinate on this list, so you don't
duplicate effort by other team members, including in the French group.
Original French FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FR/FAQ
English FAQs are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
--Jean
Preston,
Can you do translations from either French or German? Otherwise, what
interests you from the list in my earlier note in this thread? Some
items on that list can be conveniently broken into smaller tasks that
take less of a time commitment than others.
--Jean
Hello Jean,
Thanks for the information. I'm interested in helping write the Base guide so would appreciate more information on that.
In the meantime, I will take a look at chapter 5 (Using Graphics) of the Calc guide. If I have any spare time, I will identify and note any chapters that will need updating upon release of LO 4.2.
Thanks,
Martin
Hello
Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 9 Adding and Formatting Text is now
the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF Authors website ready for review and
comments.
Regards
PeterS
Hello
Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 10 Printing, Exporting & E-mailing is
now in the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF Authors website ready for review
and comment.
Regards
PeterS
Hi Peter,
being really picky there is a tip on page 18 just below figure 14 where I don't think the grammar is correct:
" create a numbered list with more than ten elements and making sure "
but that is the only mistake I can see
Cheers
Hello
Version 4.1 of the Draw Guide Chapter 11 Advanced Draw Techniques is now in
the Drafts LO4.1 folder on the ODF Authors website ready for review and
comment.
That is the last chapter and version 4.1 is now complete.
Regards
PeterS
Hi Peter,
I plan to check and publish these last three chapters today or
tomorrow and then compile the book. Great work!
Are you going to work on Calc Guide updates for v4.1 now? I've got
some of the later chapters in progress (should be finished soon), but
quite a few have been done... enough to keep you busy for awhile
anyway.
--Jean
Hello Jean
Yes, I shall be checking the Calc Guide next. By the time that is finished, it will be time for the Impress Guide to upgraded to 4.2.
Regards
Peter Schofield
psauthor@libreoffice.org