Libreoffice 3.4 Quickstarter Problem

Hi all,

I am doing Image Update for "Setting Up Libreoffice," and I am stuck at one problem:  There is no check box for LibreOffice Quickstarter in Tools>Options>Libreoffice>Memory. There is no "Load LibreOffice during system start-up" option at all. I am using Libreoffice 3.4.0 and Ubuntu 10.10. Have anyone come across such a problem? I am updating all the images taken in windows to that in Ubuntu, so I cannot continue until I solve this.. :frowning:

Jaimon

Hi :slight_smile:
Hmm, that one might be tricky. It's not really something that is needed in
gnu&linux so the box might not be there.

Would it be good to cheat and use Gimp to copy&paste that tick-box area from a
Windows screen-shot into the Ubuntu one? Some other picture editing software
might be good but Gimp is a bit like PhotoShop and worth getting used to. Draw
might be able to do this but i have no experience with Draw, still.

I'm not sure that cheating like that would be a good plan. What do other people
think?

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Thanks Tom.  Waiting for Jean or David to shed some light into this...

I installed Libreoffice 3.3 through Wine, and there it is... the Quickstarter option. I do not know if this method is valid according to The Documentation Foundation standards.... :slight_smile:

Hi Jaimon,

Thanks Tom.  Waiting for Jean or David to shed some light into this...

Which LibO version are you using? The one provided by Ubuntu or the original one from LibreOffice.org?

Right now, I have only the version that came with Mageia and I don't have a quickstarter, but I know that with older versions, the vanilla version did have the quickstarter.

So it might be an idea to try to install the "original" version.

Hope this helps.

Sigrid

Hmmm... I see "Enable systray Quickstarter" on the version of LibO on my
Ubuntu 11.04 setup, which I'm fairly sure is the one supplied with
Ubuntu (Help > About says "LibreOffice 3.3.2, OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag
libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5"). So I can supply
that picture if necessary.

I don't know why it's not showing on your LibO 3.4 setup. This is a good
example of the occasional differences between the LibO supplied with
Ubuntu (and possibly other Linux distros) and the LibO installed from
the LibO website. Also, at various times that selection was not
available in the Linux version of OOo, so it's possible that it's not
there even in the original LibO version.

Hmmm... another thought: on the General page, is "Enable experimental
(unstable) features" selected? I don't know if that makes any difference
in this case, but I've found that a lot of things that appear to be
missing suddenly show up when I select that option.

We've handled these o/s differences in the past by using a screenshot
from Windows and noting in the text that it's not found on all operating
systems, or may be worded differently. An alternative would be to use a
Linux screenshot (which I can provide) but include that item in the text
with something like "not found on all operating systems; called 'Load
LibreOffice during system start-up' on Windows". There are other options
that are Windows-only, or Linux-only, or Mac-only; I believe we handled
them in similar ways.

--Jean

Wow!
Mageia has gone from nowhere in the charts to a stable 25th place in the
DistroWatch rankings. Mandriva has only dropped slightly to 10th position.
Another example of a community fork that boosts both products? 25th place for a
1st release is very impressive. Staying there is even more so.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
I don't think so!!

I think you meant through Synaptic Package Manger? People would have grumbled
about your screen-shots if you had used Wine because that would be the Windows
version of LO, not any of the linux versions. The newer versions of Wine do
have much tighter integration with most distros themes and stuff so it almost
looks like you are running native apps even tho they are Windows programs. The
key word there is "almost". It would have been noticed.

Wine is another of those amusing regressive acronyms favoured by devs. It
stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator" indicating that it is similar to an
emulator but uses a different technique. In this case by running Windows
applications at the same level as native programs rather than by introducing an
extra couple of layers between the code and the "bare metal" of the machine. I
don't know how the APIs are developed to do that but it's all very clever.
Apparently Wine can also be used on Macs to run Windows programs there too.
It's not always easy to use but programs run very much faster than normal
emulators and in some cases faster than a fresh install on a fresh install of
Windows!

My neighbour is VERY into Wine and keeps on going on about it. I try to pretend
i'm out sometimes if he knocks.

All good :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi Sigrid,

I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and Liberoffice 3.4.0. as I mentioned in my previous mail. The problem is Ubuntu 10.10 came with OpenOffice while I am doing documentation for Libreoffice, so I had to install the version from Libreoffice.org...

Thanks

Hi Jaimon,

I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and Liberoffice 3.4.0. as I mentioned in my
previous mail. The problem is Ubuntu 10.10 came with OpenOffice while I am
doing documentation for Libreoffice, so I had to install the version from
Libreoffice.org...

Even on Ubuntu 10.10, LibreOffice is available via the Ubuntu Software
Center or Synaptic package manager, so you could just uninstall
OpenOffice.org and then install LibreOffice. Via the Ubuntu Software Center,
you currently get 3.3.2.

My 2 cents about trying to produce documentation screenshots with 3.4 is
that I wouldn't bother. 3.4 is still a work in progress, and I'd recommend
just using the current version distributed by Ubuntu. It's maybe more
rational for us to produce documentation for the current supported version
of LibreOffice rather than versions at the alpha, beta or RC stages?

HTH.

LibO 3.3.3 is available for download. That's the one I would
recommend, instead of a distro-specific version, for reasons stated in
another note. That said, the Ubuntu one would do.

If we were caught up on docs for the current supported version, I'd
suggest trying to work ahead on 3.4. But we're not caught up, so I
agree with David: best to use the current version for screenshots now.
Some things in Impress, for example, look rather different in 3.4.

--Jean