3.4 bug?

In v. 3.4 (latest Wintel build) the "deleted" edit-change text disappears (seemingly, the struck-out text changes to spaces, eliminating the text that was edit-deleted) whenever the file is saved. v. 3.3.2 is OK. Anybody else notice that feature?

Gary

Yes Gary I saw this on a Linux version as well and wondered what I had
broken......

The release notes
(http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO340) for 3.4 say:

<snip>
There are a few issues still contained in this release, which will be
addressed soon with upcoming bug fix releases (1):

    Cannot restore deleted text with change tracking ((2) fdo#37584)

1. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.4_release

2. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37584
</snip>

May be relevant. Not nice when you try to update a document and nobody can
see what you deleted!

73
Martin

Hi Gary,

In v. 3.4 (latest Wintel build) the "deleted" edit-change text disappears
(seemingly, the struck-out text changes to spaces, eliminating the text that
was edit-deleted) whenever the file is saved. v. 3.3.2 is OK. Anybody else
notice that feature?

It is a known bug.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37584
It will be addressed in the regular bug fix releases.

Best regards,
Andras

IOW, v 3.4 currently is rather useless for practical copyediting purposes... One would think such features would be fixed before labeling v. 3.4 as being "final."

Gary

This appears to be fixed in LibO 3.4.1 RC1, available from
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/

--Jean

thanks Jean, trying it out now......
have a good weekend
regards
Martin

PS still working on Draw Guide, slowly slowly. Off to Denmark for 3 weeks
on Friday so will try to get some more finished before then.
M

Hi Everybody:

What platform are you running LibO on?

Personally I use it most of the time on Win XP on 3 machines of different hardware and sizes, and on a network with 4Tb. of stuff on a D-Link DNS-323 NAS.

(Note: Since the DNS-323 is a Unix box and the drives are formatted ext3, Icons attached to anything by the user will lose their links to the associated .ICO files, but the rest is OK and has certain advantages. Other than that XP will see these drives as if they were NTFS.)

Other than that, recently in the updates for Fedora 13 on my laptop, I received a link that updated the whole platform to Fedora 15 (i386). This comes with LibO.

However the behavior of LibO or any other application can vary somewhat from one platform to another, depending on what hardware and drivers may be implicated.

Nonetheless that, and my main machine which can boot either XP or Fedora 14 x-86_64 can share the data and work with it back and forth.

For the .ODG format (LibO draw), I have a lot of my own resources prepared in the background to deal with a very diverse set of topics.

I can also import both bitmap and some vectorial data from Gimp, although importing vectorial data from other resources has its caveats, and that data may require a double import through Inkscape or may require reformatting, such as breaking up a metafile, or even converting the data to a metafile, breaking it, then bringing it back into true .ODG drawing objects and hierarchically regrouping and/or combining.

In this way I also have imported a lot of stuff originally done in DOS in Generic CADD 6, then exported as .DXF release 11, and imported into .ODG. Drawing by drawing the results differ greatly. Some drawings are easily imported, others can take hours to clean up.

I also keep an extensive collection of my own support files on every topic under the sun, not only computer hardware and software, but electronics, instrumentation, communication services, electronics and more. Currently the support collection shows at about 6.3 Gb.

In the case of writer, I also have a bunch of my own templates, one of which is particularly useful and versatile as to the range of subjects of the intended contents.

Since hyperlinks and sections do not export readily to Word, files made with this template are better exported to .PDF for recipients who do not use LibO, Oo, or Abiword. The hyperlinks can be exported if the exporting module is properly set up to do this. I would also recommend using tagged .PDFs, especially if they have to be read on mobile devices such as those using Win CE (now Windows mobile 5 or 6.)

Attributes relating to Hierarchically bulleted or numbered lists are file specific, and a selection of extra facilities of this type are also embedded in this template, which is also Language coded for Canadian English.

(Any part of the text in an .ODT can be separately coded for a different language, and often needs to be preset before entering text in other languages to avoid unnecessary cleanup of text details that are language specific.)

Likewise, I have collected an independent archive of about 1600 fonts which is backed up in multiple places. (I would not want to load all that in one system, as it would burden the system excessively)

For use with RTL or multi-byte languages, this will depend on adequate support from the levels of the Operating system that will provide the necessary underpinnings.

Is all this any help?

Bruce Martin
Quebec, Canada

Hi :slight_smile:
I think a lot of people are running it on Ubuntu using the Ubuntu Xp Silver
theme, at least for producing screen-shots.

Marc was looking for a similar theme for Mageia so he might be able to help find
a good one for Fedora, or maybe have an idea of where to look if you are stuck.
There are legal reasons for not having screen-shots done in Windows so i think
some people are just leaving the screenshots for those people that are using a
suitable platform and theme.

I use Ubuntu 10.04 at home and most of the machines at work now have that too as
a dual-boot. There are a couple of machines there with Ubuntu 10.10. I've just
managed to get my boss to agree to having LibreOffice installed on the Windows
Xp side of the dual-boots :slight_smile: Most people still use Xp and just complain about
how slow it is rather than trying Ubuntu but at least it's an option now.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi Everybody:

What platform are you running LibO on?

My main operating system is Ubuntu 11.04 Classic, but I also use LibO
occasionally on WindowsXP, Windows7, and Mac OS X Snow Leopard. My
collection of computers includes a mix of netbooks, heavy-duty Dell
StudioXPS laptop, older Dell laptop, and older Macbook Air. (Alas, LibO
won't run on the iPad or it would be there too.)

[Details snipped]

Is all this any help?

I think you would be a great resource for posing questions or scenarios
that should be answered in one of the books I intend to write, if it
doesn't fit into the existing user guides. I think I have seen some of
your posts to the users list (which I am not at the moment subscribed
to, having no time to follow it) and thought that I should add the
topics to my ever-growing "wish list" for documentation.

--Jean

Hi Everybody:

What platform are you running LibO on?

My main operating system is Ubuntu 11.04 Classic, but I also use LibO
occasionally on WindowsXP, Windows7, and Mac OS X Snow Leopard. My
collection of computers includes a mix of netbooks, heavy-duty Dell
StudioXPS laptop, older Dell laptop, and older Macbook Air. (Alas, LibO
won't run on the iPad or it would be there too.)

[Details snipped]

Is all this any help?

I think you would be a great resource for posing questions or scenarios
that should be answered in some form (how-to, tutorial, whatever), if it
doesn't fit into the existing user guides. I think I have seen some of
your posts to the users list (which I am not at the moment subscribed
to, having no time to follow it) and thought that I should add the
topics to my ever-growing "wish list" for documentation.

And, of course, if you want to join in with researching and writing the
answers, that would be ideal. For writing/reviewing/editing, many people
use Windows or Mac, while others use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.

The only area where o/s is an issue is screenshots, Windows is actively
avoided. Windows users can provide screenshots that someone else can
replace, or (when reviewing) simply indicate in a comment what
illustrations need replacing and why. And, of course, not all
illustrations are screenshots, and a tightly-cropped screenshot from
Windows can work fine.

--Jean