Calc Guide Review

Hi :slight_smile:
Do we have any draft documentation or anything about trying to use sound files
in Impress? Particularly worried that it seem to be broken on Windows but is
there something that might help someone get sound working in Impress in Windows?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

We haven't started updating the Impress Guide from OOo to LO, and as I recall sound was often an issue with OOo: it worked, but not necessarily the way the user wanted. But you're saying it doesn't work at all with LO? At least not on Windows? Any particular version of windows? And is this LO 3.3?

My first thought: is this one of those things that needs "experimental features" turned on?

The LO Impress Guide is next on my to do list, so I'm interested in pursuing this. In fact, I should check the OOo info more closely too, in case there is some problem there too. I've had no experience using sound in presentations, but it's something I want to learn more about; and now that I'm home for awhile, I do have some Windows machines to test on.

With luck, someone will know a lot more about this and reply here, and save us all a lot of work. :wink:

--Jean

Hi Jean :slight_smile:

There is no reason for the documentation team to get involved with this as it
should be handled by the users list.

Many thanks for the info and the suggestion of using OOo documentation. I think
i already suggested that very early on but i might have forgotten. The point
about the experimental features is something i had no idea about and hopefully
that might solve it.

The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
the sound-links broke with that too.
"Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
3.3.0.4)"

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

There is no reason for the documentation team to get involved with this as it
should be handled by the users list.

Docs should be involved if some of the info could usefully be added to
the user guide to help someone else. I'll be interested to hear the
solution, if anyone finds one. Or the diagnosis of what the underlying
problem is.

Many thanks for the info and the suggestion of using OOo documentation. I think
i already suggested that very early on but i might have forgotten. The point
about the experimental features is something i had no idea about and hopefully
that might solve it.

I don't know what features are in the "experimental" category, but if
this partially works, then it probably isn't among them.

The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
the sound-links broke with that too.
"Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
3.3.0.4)"

The problem might be related to saving in ppt, not odp. Does the file
save ok to odp? Sounds like from what you say, saving to odp has
problems too, so ppt may not be an issue.

--Jean

Hi Jean
Thanks.
Yes I am new to LibreOffice so don't have an account so I'd appreciate one being set up.
I've gone through the style guides and they all seem fine.
what I would like to do is writing, reviewing, editing and need experience
in doing user guides.

Tempe

Hi,

>

[...]

I don't know what features are in the "experimental" category, but if
this partially works, then it probably isn't among them.

> The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
> file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
> each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
> order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
> the sound-links broke with that too.
> "Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
> 3.3.0.4)"

The problem might be related to saving in ppt, not odp. Does the file
save ok to odp? Sounds like from what you say, saving to odp has
problems too, so ppt may not be an issue.

I've read the thread on the users list. The problem occurs, when the file is saved as odp. The inserted links don't work any more. They still point to the correct file, but in order to get it working again you'll have to remove the link and insert it anew. I can see, that this is really annoying, if you have about 400 links. (Updating/refreshing the links does not work - the user has already tried this.)

Sigrid

Hi Jean
I forgot to tell you about my experience.
I'm a landscape architect/urban design (MLAUD Harvard) and have been writing reports
for government and articles for journals for over twenty years. In addition I was a thesis marker
for BA students for 7 years; I've done a lot of reviewing and editing. With my background in
architecture, understanding and describing how to put things together are just part of the job.

Thanks
Tempe

Hi :slight_smile:

Welcome in :slight_smile: The lists prefer people to bottom-post but some of us continue to
top-post to keep things familiar for noobs and Windows users. Some of us are
annoyingly inconsistent to try to please people in different circumstances.

Anyway, welcome in and have fun with all this :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
Enabling "experimental features" didn't help with the sound links. Is it likely
to be the format? Mp3 is not optimal for LO? Is it likely to be because the
sound files are not stored in LO's sound gallery?

I am sorry to bring this back to the documentation team but the users list seems
to have no idea. The documentation team has already been far more helpful!

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hey Timi. Could you send me a fragment of your file in my private email?

I´ve made some tests with sound using PPS files converted do ODP files and
maybe I could light a candle up to your problem...

Rgds

Helmar Fernandes

Thanks Tom
See bottom- post.

Hi :slight_smile:

Welcome in :slight_smile: The lists prefer people to bottom-post but some of us continue to
top-post to keep things familiar for noobs and Windows users. Some of us are
annoyingly inconsistent to try to please people in different circumstances.

Anyway, welcome in and have fun with all this :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

________________________________
From: Tempe Macgowan <tempem@bigpond.com>
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 2 May, 2011 5:05:09
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Review or any review

Hi Jean
I forgot to tell you about my experience.
I'm a landscape architect/urban design (MLAUD Harvard) and have been writing
reports

for government and articles for journals for over twenty years. In addition I
was a thesis marker

for BA students for 7 years; I've done a lot of reviewing and editing. With my
background in
architecture, understanding and describing how to put things together are just
part of the job.

Thanks
Tempe

How do you sign up then for doing copy writing then?
Tempe

Welcome! To help us help you get started with LibreOffice documentation,
please tell us a bit about yourself and what you'd like to do. Writing,
editing, reviewing? User guides or something else? Are you new to
LibreOffice, or have you been participating in other parts of the
project? How familiar are you with the different components of
LibreOffice? If you've already introduced youself, and I missed your
note, my apologies.

Several people (I am one) can create an account for you on Alfresco, the
content management system that we use for developing user guides (and
potentially for other docs as well). Then we can give you pointers about
where and how to get started.

--Jean

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Hi Tom
If my background experience is OK, can you set up an account and then we go from there?
Thanks
Tempe

Hi Tom
If my background experience is OK, can you set up an account and then we go from there?
Thanks
Tempe

I set up your account yesterday. Didn't you get my email with the login info?

Jean

Hi Jean
No - must have slipped through somewhere.
Can you resend it thanks?
Tempe

This sounds to me like a question for the developers. You may need to file an issue (bug report), but just asking on the developers' list might be enough.

Jean

Done. Check your spam trap if it doesn't arrive this time.

Jean

Hi Tom
This was in an old user posting
"If you insert a sound object using Insert > Movie and Sound it will play
immediately when you show the slide in a slide show.

One way to make the sound start when you want is to make an exact
duplicate of the slide and embed the sound on the second slide. You just
advance to the second slide to start the sound.

The second way is to insert an object that is not a sound and use it as a
button to start the sound. For example: Insert > Picture > From File
You could choose a picture that looks like a speaker icon.
With the picture selected, right click it and choose Interaction...
Beside Action at mouse click, choose Play Sound
Click the Browse button and select a sound file to play.
Click OK
In your slide show, click the picture "icon" to start playing the sound."

Perhaps it might be a work around?

regards
Martin

________________________________
From: Tempe Macgowan <tempem@bigpond.com>
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 3 May, 2011 0:18:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Review or any review

Thanks Tom
See bottom- post.
On 02/05/2011, at 8:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :slight_smile:

Welcome in :slight_smile: The lists prefer people to bottom-post but some of us continue
to

top-post to keep things familiar for noobs and Windows users. Some of us are
annoyingly inconsistent to try to please people in different circumstances.

Anyway, welcome in and have fun with all this :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

________________________________
From: Tempe Macgowan <tempem@bigpond.com>
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 2 May, 2011 5:05:09
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Review or any review

Hi Jean
I forgot to tell you about my experience.
I'm a landscape architect/urban design (MLAUD Harvard) and have been writing
reports

for government and articles for journals for over twenty years. In addition I
was a thesis marker

for BA students for 7 years; I've done a lot of reviewing and editing. With my

background in
architecture, understanding and describing how to put things together are just

part of the job.

Thanks
Tempe

On 30/04/2011, at 5:12 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 16:15 +1000, Tempe Macgowan wrote:

How do you sign up then for doing copy writing then?
Tempe

Welcome! To help us help you get started with LibreOffice documentation,
please tell us a bit about yourself and what you'd like to do. Writing,
editing, reviewing? User guides or something else? Are you new to
LibreOffice, or have you been participating in other parts of the
project? How familiar are you with the different components of
LibreOffice? If you've already introduced youself, and I missed your
note, my apologies.

Several people (I am one) can create an account for you on Alfresco, the
content management system that we use for developing user guides (and
potentially for other docs as well). Then we can give you pointers about
where and how to get started.

Jean

Hi Tom
If my background experience is OK, can you set up an account and then we go from
there?
Thanks
Tempe

Hi :slight_smile:
As you have seen i am just a lurker here. There are useful interesting people
doing the real work.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi Jean
No it hasn't come through again. can you describe where the spam trap may be - I'm using an iMac?
thanks
Tempe

I see you are on Bigpond, so something in Bigpond's spam filtering
system may be trapping it. I don't know what Bigpond does or where you
can find the spam it's blocked. There should be somewhere you can
"whitelist" my email address.

What email program are you using on the iMac? If a message gets past
Bigpond's filters, it could perhaps be trapped by your email program,
which may have its own spam filters. Again, there should be somewhere
you can "whitelist" my email address.

I will also try sending the message from my iinet address, just in case
Bigpond doesn't like some messages from gmail. Or, do you have an
alternate address that I could send it to?

--Jean

I see you are on Bigpond, so something in Bigpond's spam filtering
system may be trapping it. I don't know what Bigpond does or where you
can find the spam it's blocked. There should be somewhere you can
"whitelist" my email address.

What email program are you using on the iMac? If a message gets past
Bigpond's filters, it could perhaps be trapped by your email program,
which may have its own spam filters. Again, there should be somewhere
you can "whitelist" my email address.

I will also try sending the message from my iinet address, just in case
Bigpond doesn't like some messages from gmail. Or, do you have an
alternate address that I could send it to?

--Jean