Calc Guide Review

AFAIK, we've agreed to use American spelling. Please do correct any British
spelling that has managed to slip through the earlier reviews.

The first edition of the Writer Guide has been published, so the next set of
chapters to be done are those in the Draw Guide. The first step for that is
the rebranding. Barbara has been doing an admirable job with the first pass
of rebranding, but I don't know if she plans to work on the Draw Guide;
haven't heard from her in awhile.

I'll compile a summary of what needs to be done, if no one responds to my
recent note asking if anyone's already done such a summary.

I'm looking forward to having all the books rebranded and a first edition
published, so we can start improving them (as well as updating to
LibreOffice 3.4, due out very soon).

Hal

Sorry I mentioned Writer from memory of someone mentioning it was needing
focus, I must have been mistaken.

I read your note about the summary and will follow it and anything else
related. Thanks for the information about spelling too.

More chapters of the updated OOo Impress Guide should be ready for
rebranding to LO within the next week or so. I'm uploading them to
Alfresco as they become available.

So there's lots of rebranding, and checking for incorrect info, to be
done asap. It's great to have another person helping on this, Simon.

--Jean

Hi, :slight_smile:

Yes, please, Hal, a summary of the recent work would help us see
clearer what needs doing next.

David Nelson

I was referring to a summary of what needs to be done during rebranding, not
what has been done recently or to date, so new people working on chapters
that have not yet been rebranded know what to do.

A summary of recent work would be helpful, too, but that's a different
effort.

I think we need some sort of "task list" (on the wiki?) to indicate what's
been done, what stage each doc has reached, what needs doing, etc. Something
vaguely like
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/User_Guidesbut
organised better.

We had a variation on something like that on the wiki, but it was removed
when the work moved to Alfresco.

Hal

Hi Hal, :slight_smile:

I was referring to a summary of what needs to be done during rebranding, not
what has been done recently or to date, so new people working on chapters
that have not yet been rebranded know what to do.

A summary of recent work would be helpful, too, but that's a different
effort.

I think we need some sort of "task list" (on the wiki?) to indicate what's
been done, what stage each doc has reached, what needs doing, etc. Something
vaguely like
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/User_Guidesbut
organised better.

We had a variation on something like that on the wiki, but it was removed
when the work moved to Alfresco.

I'll reply in a separate thread about wiki organization then.

David Nelson

Hi :slight_smile:

I am sure i have seen things like that in the mailing list. I might even have
filed away the relevant emails but can't access my old emails for a few days.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I stated this before, we in the Brasilian translation team have this wiki
page for the status of the work, see if anyone gets it ...

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/pt-br

R.

Hi Rogerio, :slight_smile:

I stated this before, we in the Brasilian translation team have this wiki
page for the status of the work, see if anyone gets it ...

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/pt-br

OK, I had a quick look, I'll take a better look during the coming
week, although obviously no-one is barred from working on the wiki
pages themselves if they feel inspiration to do so.

David Nelson

How do you sign up then for doing copy writing then?
Tempe

Welcome! To help us help you get started with LibreOffice documentation,
please tell us a bit about yourself and what you'd like to do. Writing,
editing, reviewing? User guides or something else? Are you new to
LibreOffice, or have you been participating in other parts of the
project? How familiar are you with the different components of
LibreOffice? If you've already introduced youself, and I missed your
note, my apologies.

Several people (I am one) can create an account for you on Alfresco, the
content management system that we use for developing user guides (and
potentially for other docs as well). Then we can give you pointers about
where and how to get started.

--Jean

Hi :slight_smile:
Do we have any draft documentation or anything about trying to use sound files
in Impress? Particularly worried that it seem to be broken on Windows but is
there something that might help someone get sound working in Impress in Windows?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

We haven't started updating the Impress Guide from OOo to LO, and as I recall sound was often an issue with OOo: it worked, but not necessarily the way the user wanted. But you're saying it doesn't work at all with LO? At least not on Windows? Any particular version of windows? And is this LO 3.3?

My first thought: is this one of those things that needs "experimental features" turned on?

The LO Impress Guide is next on my to do list, so I'm interested in pursuing this. In fact, I should check the OOo info more closely too, in case there is some problem there too. I've had no experience using sound in presentations, but it's something I want to learn more about; and now that I'm home for awhile, I do have some Windows machines to test on.

With luck, someone will know a lot more about this and reply here, and save us all a lot of work. :wink:

--Jean

Hi Jean :slight_smile:

There is no reason for the documentation team to get involved with this as it
should be handled by the users list.

Many thanks for the info and the suggestion of using OOo documentation. I think
i already suggested that very early on but i might have forgotten. The point
about the experimental features is something i had no idea about and hopefully
that might solve it.

The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
the sound-links broke with that too.
"Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
3.3.0.4)"

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

There is no reason for the documentation team to get involved with this as it
should be handled by the users list.

Docs should be involved if some of the info could usefully be added to
the user guide to help someone else. I'll be interested to hear the
solution, if anyone finds one. Or the diagnosis of what the underlying
problem is.

Many thanks for the info and the suggestion of using OOo documentation. I think
i already suggested that very early on but i might have forgotten. The point
about the experimental features is something i had no idea about and hopefully
that might solve it.

I don't know what features are in the "experimental" category, but if
this partially works, then it probably isn't among them.

The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
the sound-links broke with that too.
"Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
3.3.0.4)"

The problem might be related to saving in ppt, not odp. Does the file
save ok to odp? Sounds like from what you say, saving to odp has
problems too, so ppt may not be an issue.

--Jean

Hi Jean
Thanks.
Yes I am new to LibreOffice so don't have an account so I'd appreciate one being set up.
I've gone through the style guides and they all seem fine.
what I would like to do is writing, reviewing, editing and need experience
in doing user guides.

Tempe

Hi,

>

[...]

I don't know what features are in the "experimental" category, but if
this partially works, then it probably isn't among them.

> The presentation has about 400 links to 400 different mp3 sound-files. When the
> file gets saved some of the links break but i don't think it's the same links
> each time. I don't think it matters which format is used but ppt is needed in
> order to work with MS Office users. Swf (flash animation) has been tried but
> the sound-links broke with that too.
> "Win XP Pro + SP3 and LibreOffice 3.3.0 (OOO330 m19 Build 6, tag libreoffice -
> 3.3.0.4)"

The problem might be related to saving in ppt, not odp. Does the file
save ok to odp? Sounds like from what you say, saving to odp has
problems too, so ppt may not be an issue.

I've read the thread on the users list. The problem occurs, when the file is saved as odp. The inserted links don't work any more. They still point to the correct file, but in order to get it working again you'll have to remove the link and insert it anew. I can see, that this is really annoying, if you have about 400 links. (Updating/refreshing the links does not work - the user has already tried this.)

Sigrid

Hi Jean
I forgot to tell you about my experience.
I'm a landscape architect/urban design (MLAUD Harvard) and have been writing reports
for government and articles for journals for over twenty years. In addition I was a thesis marker
for BA students for 7 years; I've done a lot of reviewing and editing. With my background in
architecture, understanding and describing how to put things together are just part of the job.

Thanks
Tempe

Hi :slight_smile:

Welcome in :slight_smile: The lists prefer people to bottom-post but some of us continue to
top-post to keep things familiar for noobs and Windows users. Some of us are
annoyingly inconsistent to try to please people in different circumstances.

Anyway, welcome in and have fun with all this :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
Enabling "experimental features" didn't help with the sound links. Is it likely
to be the format? Mp3 is not optimal for LO? Is it likely to be because the
sound files are not stored in LO's sound gallery?

I am sorry to bring this back to the documentation team but the users list seems
to have no idea. The documentation team has already been far more helpful!

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: