Better wording for 'Update links' question

Hi,

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32548

The bug says: when I open a certain .odp document, I get a pop-up
question asking "Update all links? Yes/No"

Anybody who knows this functionality, can you please provide a better
wording? :wink: Just post it here, I'll integrate it.

Thank you a lot,
Kendy

That dialog gets launched when there are some external links present in
Edit - Links... dialog. A link can be one of various types, and what
types of links are supported differ between the apps. It could be a DDE
link, OLE link, Area link (Calc only), external references (Calc only)
etc. I hope you get the picture.

Given this, I don't know what the better wording would be. Updating all
links basically tries to fetch the latest content from the respective
link sources, or else the app would show data from its own cache which
is normally stored with the document, and may be outdated.

Without the document in question it is hard to say. But the message is used to indicate that there are external links within the document and ask if the user wishes to update these links. This is seen more in Calc than Writer but if you have graphics or the like that are linked in then this would happen. I am not sure how it could be made much plainer unless it is changed to something like "The document uses external links, do you wish this links updated?"

Personally I see no problem with the way it is.

Andy

How about this?

"This document contains one or more links to external data. Would you
like to update all links to get the most recent data?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

just as likely to be going to audio, video, or other media or
graphics/picture files. Many users would not think of these as "data" so
perhaps the wording should be:

"This document contains one or more links to external media or other data.
Would you
like to update all links to get the most recent content?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

Hal

Hi, :slight_smile:

"This document contains one or more links to external media or other data.
 Would you like to update all links to get the most recent content?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

My 2 cents would be that this is the best wording.

David Nelson

Hi Kohei!

> Given this, I don't know what the better wording would be. Updating
all
> links basically tries to fetch the latest content from the
respective
> link sources, or else the app would show data from its own cache
which
> is normally stored with the document, and may be outdated.

How about this?

"This document contains one or more links to external data. Would you
like to update all links to get the most recent data?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

Much, much better! Is another iterative proposal okay? Assuming that we
might use "self-explanatory" buttons ... and that I need somebody who
resolves the "non-native speaker language issues" :wink:

Hi Olivier,

thanks a lot! So another iteration ... CCing all the other guys and
keeping your message.

So the new text proposal is:

Hi, :slight_smile:

So, re-working Hal's suggeston, we'd have:

"This document contains one or more links to external media or other data.
Do you want to update all links to get the most recent content?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

David Nelson

Hi David, all!

Hi, :slight_smile:

So, re-working Hal's suggeston, we'd have:

???

"This document contains one or more links to external media or other data.
Do you want to update all links to get the most recent content?

Go to Edit - Links... to find out what external data this document
references."

I think this proposal misses a bit the remaining LibO/OOo menu and
dialog wording. For example, the "external media or other data" is is
"External Data" in Calc. And, as far as I know, LibO/OOo rather uses
"Media and Sound" or "Objects", but doesn't refer to "media". The funny
thing is, that pictures ("the" media content") won't get updated within
this dialog - so it would be somehow incorrect. I assume that it is the
same for videos and sounds.

Then, I miss the reason for asking - it is implicitly contained in "most
recent content", although the external data might not have changed in
the meantime. And what happens if the user does not update all the
links?

Then I'd like to ask whether you plan for different buttons and/or
dialog titles - or is this the default Yes/No behavior? If yes, then the
user would get the important information in the second part. It is
usually recommended to provide it as early as possible. That's e.g. the
reason for the "self-speaking" buttons. (I agree that LibO/OOo still
misses such specific dialog guidelines like the Gnome HIG or stuff
Apple/Microsoft/... provides.)

The last sentence "Go to Edit ..." is I'd like to see in the help
(referring to a sub-section to the , but not in the dialog itself. But
to be honest, I don't know whether there is currently a help topic for
that ...

Until then, I'd stick with the proposal stated below.

Cheers,
Christoph

[...]

> ----
> Update Linked Data
> ----
> This document links to external data that might have changed. Do you
> want to update all linked data or keep the current document content?
> ----
> [Help] [Update] [Keep]
> ----

[...]