Re: Unclear string to translate in inspectorproperties.hrc

Thank you, Mike & Shivam, for explanation.
We should probably translate the strings in a similar cryptic way.

The inspector pane is not displayed (I have the most recent build), so
I'll wait for a fix.

thanks
Milos


On 8/12/20 12:04 PM, Mike Kaganski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12.08.2020 12:52, Milos Sramek wrote:
> > we got for translation 200+ new strings, which are located in file
> > inspectorproperties.hrc and seem to be related to the Style Inspector
> > sidebar deck.
> >
> > These strings are not full sentences and seem to have a certain logic
> > structure, for example
> >
> > Fill Bitmap Rectangle Point
> > Char Interoperability Grab Bag
> > Char Weight Complex
> >
> > So, we do not know, how to translate them. Should they be translated at all?
> Basically answered in i10n mailing list; citing here:
>
>
> > Some background.
> >
> > These strings are related to the Styles Inspector - a GSoC project,
> > being implemented by Shivam Kumar Singh
> > (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134554). The
> > inspector is already available in Experimental mode (see comment 2 in
> > the meta issue).
> >
> > The Inspector presents a detailed low-level view of properties applied
> > at the cursor. As such, it shows the multitude of attributes applied to
> > text (or other object in the future); most these attributes have their
> > names in multiple dialogs throughout the UI, but this is the first time
> > when all of them need to be named in a single place. And translation in
> > dialogs can not be used directly, e.g. because the translation there in
> > dialogs may use context absent in the Inspector.
> >
> > One possible improvement could be to provide a hint somehow near the IDs
> > in inspectorproperties.hrc, where known/possible, to the related strings
> > in the dialogs/other UI parts, to help translators understand what this
> > item is about. But that's a separate task/TODO: the current work on
> > Inspector does not consider dialogs; the Inspector is created based on
> > the properties available using UNO API, and thus Shivam does not know
> > where the items are located in existing UI. (This is to clarify that
> > there's no information already used by developers, potentially useful to
> > translation, that was somehow lost during development.)
> >
> > The names that Shivam has put there are possibly somewhat "cryptic"
> > exactly because of the mentioned specifics: the names are mostly the API
> > names, which were split by CamelCase to produce strings like "Char
> > Weight Complex", intended to be used in context of table like
> >
> >     Char Interoperability Grab Bag    "some string"
> >
> >     Char Weight Complex    10
> >
> > So the mentioned TODO would also allow to gradually find the existing
> > names of the attributes, and make them consistent in the Inspector.
>
>
> Milos Sramek wrote:
> > Currently, I can see only two items in Style Inspector sidebar deck in
> > Writer
> > Font name
> > Font size
> >
> > In the file inspectorproperties.hrc there is
> > "Char Font Name"
> > but no
> > "Char Font Size"
> >
> > Are the strings, which i can see in the Inspector, derived somehow from
> > the strings in  inspectorproperties.hrc?
> You obviously look somewhere else. The Inspector looks like this:
> https://imgur.com/xu2Wvh2
> You might need to move cursor/type something for the initially empty
> deck to initialize (a bug).
>
> Note that there are exactly "Char Font Name" and "Char Font Height", but
> no "Font name" or "Font size" currently.
>
>
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Milos Sramek, msramek22@gmail.com