ESC meeting minutes: 2020-06-25

* Present:
    + Justin, Cloph, Heiko, Stephan, Gabriel, Ilmari, Thorsten, Xisco, Miklos, Michael M, Olivier, 
William, Sophie

* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + put together some proposal on what are the benefits of a dev list move from FDO to TDF 
(William)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status
      + UI freeze & string freeze in the first week of July
      + rc1 is due next week, string freeze but still from libreoffice-7-0
      + there will be 3 RCs (Cloph)
    + 6.4 status
      + 6.4.5 rc2 was tagged yesterday, 2 patches missed the boat
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Marketing changes & late-feature work (Michael M)
    + new positioning coming
    + to protect peope who work on the project & encourage others to contribute
    + code changes proposed:
      + late change: adding phrases to the software to point out that it's supported by voluneers 
and it's intended for personal use / home users
      + qualified compenies could use an Enterprise branding
      + possibly a string change to make that more visible
      + support that (Thorsten)
        + BoD has consessus on this
        + push out rc1 towards the end of next week? (Miklos)
           + ok to tag on Thursday (Christian)
        + stay in close-contact, check the bits in next week & get sign-off.
      + does it align with the latest naming of "community"? (Heiko)
        + it will be probably "Personal" (Michael)
        + have branding for normal & high resolution & TDF branded version
        + on the final builds, they get this splash screen
        + in the past - changed it to Community Edition
        + change that to something.
        + need a larger "Personal" that is there for TDF too (Michael M)
        + splash is not translated, perhaps can de-couple (Thorsten)
           + even if last-minute changes over next week.
           + don't want to annoy translators.
      + same for Online
      + would affect help? (Olivier)
           + yes, but potentially doing this incrementally (Michael)
      + "Personal", would this be translated? (Xisco)
        + would not translate at the end - it's a brand (Sophie)

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + Fixed some xhp editor issues (ohallot)
       + CSS changes (fitoshido)
    + Helpcontent2
       + Updates, fixes and new pages (ohallot, fitoshido, gelmini, Libreofficiant, G. Kelemen)
       + Please review 7.0 branch Help patches (1 reviewer)
         + Happy to help out (Sophie)
    + Google seasons of doc 2020
       + Application phase on going
    + Guides
       + Calc guide 6.4 published
       + New covers for Guides 7.x
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/Jrjnq4eeSFPo3zW
       + New templates for chapters,

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 265(265) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
             added      9(3)      22(5)      47(4)      165(5)
         commented     55(-19)   288(-54)   955(-30)   3517(6)
           removed      0(-1)      1(0)       6(0)       46(0)
          resolved      8(0)      41(-3)    131(4)      368(6)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 170 changes in 1 month, and 2064 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 43 changes in 1 month, and 602 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 39 changes in 1 month, and 210 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 35 changes in 1 month, and 527 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 30 changes in 1 month, and 155 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 29 changes in 1 month, and 230 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 29 changes in 1 month, and 459 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 27 changes in 1 month, and 577 changes in 1 year
          srijan bhatia made 24 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 23 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year

    + New tickets with needsUXEval Jun/18-Jun/25

      * 15 tickets requesting UX input

      * Setting different Calc Border Styles for the same cell with the
        toolbar button
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133623
        + dup of https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103770
        + border widget adds lines, request is to toggle

      * Words whose characters span multiple languages should not undergo
        spell checking
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131487
        + don't spell check dell'International for example
        + seeking input at the l10n ML

      * Unclear option "Use printer metrics for document formatting"
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131136
        + Tools > Options > Draw > General > Compatibility >
          "Use printer metrics for document formatting"

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 0(-5) import failure, 4(-1) export failures
    + ??? coverity issues
    + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2
        + (-233) 2094 2327 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2
        + (-208) 1887 2095 2354 2731 3033 3501 3702 4322 5765 6869 6527 8046 6988 3716 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.3.2
        + (-786) 2625 3411 3771 4896 6243 7540 6577 5725 4328 2199 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.4.2
        + (-476) 6857 7333 5252 3670 1638 0

    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/gdi32full.dll
    + crash signature problem is still there (mentioned last week)
    + 6.4.5 got lots of new crash fixes, should be better now


* Cleaning up Windows symbols (Cloph)
    + Is it fine to remove symbols for old Win RCs and release versions?
    + How many people are using that? bibisect repos don't use these
    + Only Timur uses them (Xisco)
      + ask on the QA mailing list?
      + but those were for daily builds
    + would not miss old TDF release symbols (Thorsten, Miklos)

* GSoC 2020 (Ilmari)
    + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
    + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
    + 6 projects accepted
    + the game is on, students are reporting more or less regularly
      + remind your students if it's not happening
    + 1st evaluation: June 29, 2020 - July 3, 2020 (next week)
    + no emergency observed so far
    + feature branch vs gerrit changes (Thorsten)
      + a combination of these works great
      + push once a day to the branch, but get the changes into master soon

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                  open     133(20)     198(43)     199(40)     209(39)
               reviews     528(-16)   1804(132)   4216(36)   20951(-140)
                merged     363(-69)   1737(19)    4893(52)   19185(-57)
             abandoned      25(10)      80(-3)     274(1)     1048(9)
           own commits     248(8)     1106(-5)    3682(9)    15634(-29)
        review commits     110(26)     449(8)     1179(20)    4661(2)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                  open       43(5)      76(3)        80(2)        82(2)
               reviews     1306(20)   4990(128)   12066(316)   41204(252)
                merged       37(-1)    183(-13)     376(11)      997(29)
             abandoned        9(-4)     53(3)       117(4)       569(0)
           own commits       66(21)    270(-3)      562(35)     1308(55)
        review commits        0(0)       0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 224(224)
       total 272(272)   assigned 23(23)   open 230(230)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Steve Fanning made 84 patches in 1 month, and 86 patches in 1 year
          Johnny_M made 74 patches in 1 month, and 152 patches in 1 year
          Gökay ŞATIR made 22 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
          LibreOfficiant made 8 patches in 1 month, and 132 patches in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 6 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
          yakovru made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
          Ahmad Ganzouri made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
          Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Behrens, Thorsten made 226 review comments in 1 month, and 1338 in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 184 review comments in 1 month, and 560 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 160 review comments in 1 month, and 1365 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 158 review comments in 1 month, and 1128 in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 154 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1402 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 1071 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 866 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 539 in 1 year
          Vajngerl, Tomaž made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 268 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#122565: Add UItest ( Xisco Fauli )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92191

        gtk3_kde5: Add support for extra listboxes in fpicker ( Alexander Volkov )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92505
            - Restored (Michael W, who probably can't make it to the call today)
            - gtk3_kde5 is little code, so it can live next to the kf5 backend (Thorsten)

        Try to do something about Calc/ScatterXY help ( Peter Gervai )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92536
            - Olivier will take a look
                -Patch is empty and was abandoned by pootle bot. (olivier)

    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Martin Whitaker
          yakovru
          Damian Walkowski

* Commit Access
    + decision from last week (Heiko)
      + a bit early -> get back to this later
    + Yunusemre Şentürk of Collabora (Miklos)
      + would be used for Collabora branches only, but there the lack of rebasing permission is 
painful currently
    => no objections (all)
AI: send the welcome mail (Miklos)
AI: toggle the permission (Cloph)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 13 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Jun 18 13:37:46 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  58 ok:  58 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  51 ok:  48 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master mac rel    jobs:  83 ok:  83 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  86 ok:  86 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master win rel    jobs:  70 ok:  70 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master win dbg    jobs:  76 ok:  76 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  74 ok:  74 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 549 ok: 430 ko:  83 fail ratio: 15.12% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  
21
    master gerrit plg jobs: 486 ok: 300 ko: 150 fail ratio: 30.86% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  
29
    master gerrit win jobs: 573 ok: 375 ko: 146 fail ratio: 25.48% time for ok: mean:  54 median:  
54
    master gerrit mac jobs: 549 ok: 423 ko:  78 fail ratio: 14.21% time for ok: mean:  33 median:  
29
    master gerrit all jobs: 493 ok: 229 ko: 204 fail ratio: 41.38% time for ok: mean:  71 median:  
64
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200625.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 error "this member function can be declared static [loplugin:staticmethods]" triggered in 
included file 
/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/lo_gerrit/Config/linux_clang_dbgutil_64/include/unotest/macros_test.hxx:52:10
      3 CppunitTest_chart2_import
      3 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter
      3 UITest_writer_tests7
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3
      6 Killed by the kill-wrapper
      6 CppunitTest_sd_import_tests
      6 UITest_writer_tests
      7 CppunitTest_sd_pdf_import_test
      9 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter

    + back to normal failure ratio

* l10n (Sophie)
  + work is ongoing
  + fixed xml syntax failing checks for all languages in master

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 3 (+2) open bugs, 74 total (+5)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + deadline to submit your talks: 21st July

* The zoo of http/web and crypto libraries that we ship (Thorsten)
  + context: it seems we might be getting some funding from some large US company
  + 3 proposals:
    + curl-based UCP (get rid of neon/serf)
    + more grandual security permissions
    + protected mode (similar to what the competition does when the doc comes via email / 
downloaded)

* macOS 11 support (Julien)
  + see 
<http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/About-MacOs-future-with-ARM-tt4281998.html>
  + any thoughts here?
  + mostly have the bridge already (aarch64 linux bridge would be quite similar), probably (Stephan)
  + sit and wait for the moment (Thorsten, Miklos)
    + no planning needed right now

* Dev mailing list move from FDO to TDF infra (William)
  + sent a proposal to the dev list
    + did not see it (Miklos)
  + https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-June/085420.html
  + it was a deliberate decision back in the day to have the dev list open (Thorsten)
    + you don't have to subscribe
    + that would not work on any TDF lists
    + if the benefit is not good enough and there is a large cost, then makes sense to move
  + if you post very rarely, it's more likely that your mail ends up in the mod queue
  + don't get admin help on FDO (William)
  + perhaps the no-subscribe requirement is less important these days due to gerrit (Thorsten)
    + neutral on this move
  + multiple lists (Thorsten)
    + dev, commits, qa, design, etc.
  + what is the main pain point? (Thorsten)
    + the dev list (William)
  + moderation will be very slow, beware (Cloph)
    + doesn't scale for multiple moderators
  => talk to TDF infra and see what are the next step (all)
AI: do this (William)

ESC minutes on TDF infra (Thorsten)
    + the wiki link is outdated
AI:    + will update it, the new link is in each & every agenda mail (William)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 809 (-54)
        + enhancements: 92  (-3)
        + needsUXEval: 11 (+5)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (-1)
        + needsDevAdvice: 11 (+0)
        + documentation:  11 (-3)
        + android:  4 (+1)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  12 (-2)



    + Most pressing bugs:
        New:
                None
        Old:
       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

       + Opening ODS file rise Incorrect Format exception. Opened well with
         OpenOffice 4.1.3
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116079
           + regression from the fastparser gsoc work from 2016
          + Mohammed is no longer around, Julien is asking for tips

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates

    Fixed:
       + Names of new hatch patterns in 7.0 not localizable
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134291
           + Thanks to Julien Nabet


    + New high severity bugs of the week:

        + CRASH: cutting shapes
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134227
            + Vasily?

        + FILEOPEN: SUM formulas are broken
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134234
            + Patch reverted.

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +219  -7 (-173) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                25
       Xisco Faulí             17
       Caolán McNamara         9
       Heiko Tietze            9
       Michael Stahl (CIB)     9
       Olivier Hallot          9
       QA Administrators       9
       V Stuart Foote          9
       Timur                   7
       Michael Weghorn         6

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 41
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   12
       NSO LibreOffice Team    12
       Xisco Faulí             11
       Regina Henschel         5
       Gerald Pfeifer          4
       Rohit Katre             4
       Buovjaga                3
       mwtjunkmail             3
       Jim Avera               2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        8
       Michael Stahl           8
       Olivier Hallot          8
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 4
       Luboš Luňák             4
       Bergmann, Stephan       3
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Lillqvist, Tor          3
       Németh, László          3
       Xisco Fauli             3

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Xisco Fauli             66
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      56
       BogdanB                 12
       Dieter Praas            10
       Timur                   9
       *UNKNOWN*               8
       Heiko Tietze            7
       Telesto                 7
       Nabet, Julien           6
       Balazs Varga            5


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 7/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 788/4429 788/4400 773/4356 761/4308 745/4274 737/4241 737/4219

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           16
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
        barakso.attila         2
        Budea, Áron            2
        Raal                   2
        Timur                  1
        Kelemen, Gabor         1
        Telesto                1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 977/5308 977/5276 956/5224 943/5169 924/5130 917/5096 915/5071

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           17
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
        barakso.attila         2
        Budea, Áron            2
        BogdanB                2
        Raal                   2
        Timur                  1
        Kelemen, Gabor         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1170(+14) bugs open of 9825(+43) total 16(+6) high prio.

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           14
        Telesto               11
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     8
        BogdanB                2
        MM                     2
        Raal                   2
        Budea, Áron            1
        Timur                  1
        Madero, Joel           1
        Monastirsky, Maxim     1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 10(+6)
     Calc          - 4(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 13(+6)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 346(+12)
     Calc                     - 220(+1)
     Impress                  - 135(+4)
     LibreOffice              - 58(+1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 55(+1)
     Crashes                  - 52(+5)
     Borders                  - 43(+0)
     Draw                     - 43(-1)
     UI                       - 43(+2)
     Writer: perf             - 39(+0)
     Base                     - 28(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 27(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 25(+0)
     Chart                    - 23(+1)
     RTL                      - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 21(+0)
     BASIC                    - 13(-1)
     Installation             - 2(+1)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     sdk                      - 2(+1)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)