Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05

Pedro,

you are absolute right. When you have a look at oxygen icons they were
dropped cause there was no maintainer available since years. after they
were dropped a new designer say he want to maintain.

In general a CLEAR statement why something will be dropped is better than
have something that is broken.

Am Mi., 12. Sep. 2018 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho <
mota.prego@gmail.com>:

> That's all very nice but... Who fixes it?
> It´s nice to vote to keep something in, but when that something is
> constantly breaking and there's minimal dev interest to fix or improve it
> (and it needs some dire improvements) why keep it then? Would any of the
> people in favor be willing to fix it and improve it? It's as simple as that.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:50 PM Halmai, Csongor <csongor@halmai.hu> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > from my personal perspective, I don't use personas, I never did. But...
> >
> > I taught hundreds of people, children and adults as well and I can say
> > most people like "funny little harmless" things
> > like this.
> >
> > Just imagine how many users change their desktop background, even if they
> > cannot see it the whole day. They simply just
> > like personalize it. I think such a little thing that makes LO more
> > attractive for the newcomers, should be kept.
> >
> > If it breaks then it should be fixed.
> >
> > Csongor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018.09.12. 3:44, infinitytec wrote:
> > > I'd have to agree with the idea of removing Personas. Why? Because they
> > keep breaking. A couple of prebuilt solid themes would do the trick. Allow
> > people to make and tweak themes as well, and even add images. It could,
> > perhaps, still be compatible with the Persona system, but rely only on LO
> > to function, as I know some issues have been caused on Mozilla's end.
> > > Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who do not
> > understand it.-A variation on Clarke's Third Law
> > > -------- Original message --------From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker <
> > jean-francois.nifenecker@laposte.net> Date: 9/11/18  12:22 PM
> > (GMT-06:00) To: "Роман К." <79045_79045@mail.ru>, Pedro Rosmaninho <
> > mota.prego@gmail.com> Cc: sbergman@redhat.com,
> > design@global.libreoffice.org, libreoffice-dev <
> > libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, "kainz.a" <kainz.a@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from
> > the
> > >    design meeting 2018-Sep-05
> > > Le 06/09/2018 à 12:32, Роман К. a écrit :
> > > > Hello, all. I agree with "killing" Firefox personas. And I like adding
> > just 4-5 solid color themes.
> > > >
> > > I've (manually) added the LibreOffice 4 Light Ambiance persona from
> > > Firefox on my trainer PC
> > > (
> > https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/libreoffice-4-light-ambiance/?src=search
> > ).
> > > Adding them is a chore: you've got to use the advanced mode because, as
> > > already stated, the UI is not working anymore for a loooong time.
> > >
> > > After having doubts about personas (in fact I was very reluctant to
> > > using them), I can tell that it draws attention during training
> > sessions ;-)
> > > So, I'd strongly vote to keep (and fix) the personas thingy and against
> > > having only solid themes.