Re: minutes of ESC call ...

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:50 PM Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@collabora.com>
wrote:

>    + Tools > Options > Asian/CTL always active
>        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318


The issue (at least the recent comment that revived it) argues that
disabling CTL (and by extension CJK) by default makes it much harder for
users of these scripts to use LibreOffice (which is my experience as well,
we have many reports of users failing to use such basic functionality
because it was hidden by default). So the fix it to actually make sure the
controls are always visible and may remove the option to hide them
altogether, not hiding them by default.

If the dialogs are cluttered, then they need to be organized not hiding
basic UI needed by a large segment of our users.

       + e.g. in tabs with Tools > Options > Language Settings > Default on
> top
>        + remove “For the current document only”
>        + would be happy if some developer looked at this (Michael)
>           + ideally with CTL experience.
>        + makes it more complex for those who don’t know CTL (Cloph)
>        + lots of work showing these only when there are hints (Caolan)
>           + start in a US locale – CJK document, turned off …
>           + but if any settings on the system that suggest CJK
>             should be enabled


Often than not such heuristics fails.