minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
    + Sophie, Caolan, Heiko, Xisco, Olivier, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan,
      Eike, Christian, Michael S, Jan-Marek, Shinnok, Norbert

* Completed Action Items:
    + look into ulimit -c unlimited-ness on CI slaves (Cloph)
        [ done: only 2x didn’t have it set – the others did already.
          Not seen issue again yet (Stephan) ]
    + check for increased crashes when enabling 5.4.3 updating (Christian)
        [ not live yet – but will poke Xisco when it is ]
    + find code pointer auto-format table style config merging (Caolan)
        [ dropped ]

* Pending Action Items:
    + come up with a list of retiring committers to mail (Norbert)
    + find data for x86 / Linux downloads with view to removing for 6.0 (Cloph)
        [ have the data, not broken down yet: termbin.com/2jc2 ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 6.0 Beta 1
        + tagging delayed until Saturday
           + fixes related win signing / actually packaging etc.
           + got packages for the bug-hunting session
           + a few manual disables of unit tests for windows
           + curl update makes test fail, and win file locking too.
           + now tests non-fatal if can’t delete file thanks to Stephan.
               + back-port to 6.0 if possible (Cloph)
        + late features
           + HTML help pieces (Olivier, Cloph)
               [ started looking at scripts (Shinnok)
                    + poked at portability issues.
                    + will work with Olivier to fix details.
                 Like David T’s approach (Kendy)
                    + lets have a CustomTarget to start with first
                    + good to sync with him first ‘dtardon’ ]
           + missing piece from customization GSoC (Heiko)
               [ mkara finished it so macros & styles work,
                 ready to submit, Bubli reviewing ]
   + 6.0 Beta 2 (optional)
        + due next week in case late-features / big fixes are ready.
        + otherwise, no pressing reason to do one.
        + issue with Mac: Impress/Draw not working: hard to test
   + 5.4.4 RC1: this week
        + not tagged yet, quite a few patches in the queue to review.
        + 9 are left, should be easy to review.
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-4 
   + Android
        + have a workaround for the rendering issue in gerrit.
            + disabling the charts on top of tiles as a workaround.
        + have a build with those fixes for QA to test.
   + Online
        + branched and source pushed.

* FOSDEM / Brussels, 3 & 4 February 2018
   + Submit papers: **deadline this Monday: Dec 4**
   + https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM18 
   + Submitted ?
       + Michael M – calc threading
       + Heiko - Proposal for better font handling in LibreOffice
       + Xisco – LibreOffice QA - One Year Overview.
   + Talks ?
       + Caolan – fuzzing talk ?
       + Kendy – Online dialog tunneling (?)
       + Miklos – ePUB talk (?)
       + Samuel – don’t know.
       + Christian – a dashboard talk.
       + Olivier – Converging documentation
       + Stephan – giving thought to topic.
       + Michael S – still planning.
       + mkara - Customization 
       + more most welcome ...

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Help online
       + remarks on makefiles by D. Tardon
       + some progress with shinnok
       + patch for better UI (G. Chiquinni)
    + Getting start book:
       + progressing towards 6.0, features already set.

* Testing Jitsi for ESC calls (Michael)
   + https://meet.jit.si/TDFESC ?
   + BoD & design people using it for meetings
   + Staff meeting going well with 8-9 people (Xisco)
   + audio is better without cameras (Olivier)
   + would this be ok for phone people ?
       + Stephan, Eike, Sophie, ...
   => try it next time.

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 366(366) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months   
             added      6(0)      18(2)      46(-1)     115(-3)  
         commented     35(-30)   182(-46)   620(-12)   2313(-109)
           removed      0(0)       0(0)       4(0)       19(0)   
          resolved      5(0)      19(-3)     56(2)      245(2)   
    + top 10 contributors:
          Philips, Yousuf made 66 changes in 1 month, and 802 changes in 1 year
          Tietze, Heiko made 60 changes in 1 month, and 1095 changes in 1 year
          Zolnai, Tamás made 54 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
          Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 52 changes in 1 month, and 395 changes in 1 y
          Dieter Praas made 40 changes in 1 month, and 90 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 28 changes in 1 month, and 432 changes in 1 year
          Henschel, Regina made 16 changes in 1 month, and 126 changes in 1 year
          Buovjaga made 16 changes in 1 month, and 267 changes in 1 year
          Christian Lehmann made 16 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
          Krot, Serge made 14 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year

  + Trouble with table styles
    + announced a shiny new feature – fancy table styles.
       + intended to work in writer, cf. last-year’s GSOC project.
       + better styles for tables, and people will see a great feature.
       + table itself is buggy; number formats texts → zero with table styles.
           + same type styles have to work in calc too.
       -> going with new table styles cause calc regression
  + making nice table styles for calc
  + a better serialization, 1mm padding big for calc, small for writer.
      + if styles didn’t affect all pieces of the table – a better approach.
  + in Writer text disappears if you apply a number format:
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106322
      + erAck – improved the description.
  + happy to look if we can get a writer code pointer (Eike)
      + go up from number-formatter ?
  + Module specific file types at open dialog
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79803
      + by default we show ZIP files, binaries, everything
      + show an ‘All Documents’ by default – don’t use shell (Michael)
           + opening calc docs from writer constantly
      + up to UX team of course (Michael)

* Crash Hunting (Caolan)
    + 17 import failure, 91 export failures
        + 1 fail remaining
        + hoped to get a response to the chart mail to list
    + 19 coverity
        + down.
    + 40 fuzzers * 3 sanitizers+engine combos (asan+libfuzzer,
      ubsan+libfuzzer, asan+afl)
        + docx active, xlsx pushed, pptx churning locally
        + interestingly XML is not a security win.
        + 401 bugs in 340 days since enabled the 1st test
        + bug and a half per day

* Crash Reporter (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.6.1
        + 1889 (last 7 days)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.7.2
        + 614 (last 7 days)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.2.2
          + 1999 (last 7 days )
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.3.2
          + 1553 (last 7 days )
    + similar numbers to last week.

    + SfxSlotPool::GetSlotPool(SfxViewFrame *)
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113755
          + Reported since 5.4
          + no reproducible steps so far
        + might be related to LibreOffice closing / shutdown with clipboard

* Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
    + FOSDEM hack-fest / meetings ? (Heiko)
        + Italo been looking into it;
        + proposed for Monday/Tuesday at ICAB – sent on Telegram.
    + Hamburg – 1st new-style hackfest
        + deferred to next year ...
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfests/HackfestTNG
        + timeframe is too narrow to risk it.
    + fallback plan for March in either Italy or Germany
    + still looking for people who want help learning how to fix
      their problems interactively at a hackfest.

* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
          committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months   
                  open      74(0)      125(-4)      127(-10)      132(-11)
               reviews     562(52)    1740(-76)    4801(-101)   18220(-9) 
                merged     286(80)    1085(9)      2991(93)     11308(64) 
             abandoned      45(31)     101(27)      232(34)       682(21) 
           own commits     418(149)   1403(-122)   4077(194)    13725(8)  
        review commits     127(73)     323(51)      839(56)      2808(56) 
        contributor...   1 week     1 month    3 months    12 months   
                  open      11(-11)     30(-8)     31(-7)       35(-7) 
               reviews     871(108)   2886(23)   7190(85)    23463(157)
                merged      25(1)       84(7)     247(-13)    1239(14) 
             abandoned       6(2)       17(3)      79(-2)      344(2)  
           own commits      25(1)       83(6)     252(-11)     832(16) 
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)       0(0)         0(0)  
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 35(35)   needsUXEval 0(0)   cleanup_comments 206(206)   
       total 259(259)   assigned 18(18)   open 204(204)   
    + top 5 contributors:
          Gelmini, Andrea made 33 patches in 1 month, and 195 patches in 1 year
          Johnny_M made 11 patches in 1 month, and 54 patches in 1 year
          Donkers, Winfried made 7 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Goncharuk, Lera made 4 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
          Jim Raykowski made 3 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
    + top 5 reviewers:
          Pootle bot made 266 review comments in 1 month, and 677 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 198 review comments in 1 month, and 953 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 167 review comments in 1 month, and 1385 in 1 year
          Rathke, Eike made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 1096 in 1 year
          Stahl, Michael made 95 review comments in 1 month, and 1907 in 1 year
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Fabian Jucker jucker@gyselroth.com 
          Teraslilja m-matti-a.lehtonen@iki.fi 
          qzheng qzheng@suse.com 
          Timotej Lazar timotej.lazar@araneo.si
AI: + get Michael access to vm174 (Christian)

* Commit Access
    + a reasonable request in the pipeline
        + few more external reviews first cf. Dev list.

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep for 19 weeks.

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Nov 23 16:17:27 2017 to now
    master linux rel  jobs: 233 ok: 233 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs: 213 ok: 211 ko:   1 fail ratio:  0.47 % break:   1 broken duration: 
0.12%
    master mac rel    jobs: 116 ok: 114 ko:   2 fail ratio:  1.72 % break:   2 broken duration: 
2.95%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 126 ok: 125 ko:   1 fail ratio:  0.79 % break:   1 broken duration: 
0.25%
    master win rel    jobs: 102 ok:  94 ko:   8 fail ratio:  7.84 % break:   8 broken duration: 
9.51%
    master win dbg    jobs: 101 ok:  90 ko:  11 fail ratio: 10.89 % break:   9 broken duration: 
7.44%
    master win64 dbg  jobs: 106 ok:  96 ko:  10 fail ratio:  9.43 % break:   9 broken duration: 
8.58%
    lo-5.3 mac        jobs:   1 ok:   1 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    lo-5.4 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 
0.00%
    branch gerrit all jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 512 ok: 441 ko:  66 fail ratio:12.89%
    master gerrit plg jobs: 511 ok: 348 ko: 154 fail ratio:30.14%
    master gerrit win jobs: 500 ok: 396 ko: 101 fail ratio:20.20%
    master gerrit mac jobs: 503 ok: 395 ko: 106 fail ratio:21.07%
    master gerrit all jobs: 507 ok: 288 ko: 203 fail ratio:40.04%
    + build-times in general went up across the board (Norbert)
       + all OS’ - but Mac hit the hardest.
       + need an additional builder or two.
       + reducing ccache a bit for mac minis.
       + difference Power-Mac (30mins) to Mac-mini (2 hours) is large
       + windows builders consistent at ~1hr/build
           + also increased by 10-15mins.
           + used to be 20-30mins
       + not clear why it got much worse; perhaps running more tests.
           + nothing sudden – but many cuts.
       + turnaround times seem much larger recently (Miklos)
           + is it an infra change ? dead slave in past days ?
           + have got worse in last days, but trending for months (Norbert)
       + win build time increased over the year (Norbert)
           + now we eat ~all the margin in the system.
           + schedule more builds than we have time for.
       + CI builds of already merged patches ? (Michael)
           + can happen – merging had a re-base etc. (Norbert)
               + Jenkins doesn’t know we merged it.
       + slow-down is on all platforms (Norbert)
           + problem must be in the source indep. Of compiler version.
           + or more tests that are not well tuned
       + don’t know if it is build, or test-time running (Jmux)
           + all builds run with ‘check’
           + possible new tests do slow the build (Miklos)
               + expected.
       + latency will be ~1hr – whatever (Norbert)
           + can switch Mac → more expensive Power-Mac (Michael)
           + 1 new PowerMac would replace the 3 mac-minis we have (Norbert)
           + Linux is getting close to windows / or slower (Norbert)
               + perhaps need 6 boxes – 2x of each.

* l10n (Sophie)
    + still waiting for fuzziness fix.

* QA update (Xisco)

    + Bug Hunting Session report for 6.0
        + last Monday
        + problem here – don’t know how many participants come.
            + wiki – list they can add themselves: but they don’t.
            + piwik – visits to wiki page: 100 each day.
            + they learn about the new version’s availability
        + so far found 8 reports vs. Beta 1
        + 6.0 looking good – modulo Mac bits.

    + UNCONFIRMED: 363 (+4)
        + enhancements: 42  (+5)
        + needsUXEval: 5 (+2)
        + haveBackTrace: 6 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 32 (-2)
        + documentation:  3 (+0)
        + android:  17 (+2)

    + Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
        + New:
             + LO60b1: Impress and Draw don't run on macOS
                   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114086
                   + cloph ? Build issue ?

        + Older:
             + Impress can't play MP4 videos on Mac
                   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113622
                   + regression around media embedding
                   + prolly related to SDK update & QuickTime deprecation

             + Writer crashes on undo times N (steps in Comment 11 or Comment 38)
                   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94225
                   + Patch in gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/44800/
                   + thanks to Fyodor & mst_ for review.

        + Fixed:
                [None]

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +142  +0 (-98) overall
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                16
       Heiko Tietze            7
       Caolán McNamara         6
       V Stuart Foote          6
       Telesto                 5
       Mike Kaganski           4
       Eike Rathke             4
       Michael Stahl           3
       Bartosz                 3
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    3

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    18
       Telesto                 6
       Dan Dascalescu          5
       Alex Thurgood           4
       Volga                   4
       Xisco Faulí             3
       zyklon87                3
       robert                  2
       Bernhard Rosenkraenzer  2
       kompilainenn            2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        5
       Tietze, Heiko           4
       Philips, Yousuf         4
       Zolnai, Tamás           2
       Kosiorek, Bartosz       2
       Stahl, Michael          2
       Rathke, Eike            2
       Kü                      1
       Leif Lodahl             1
       Köse, Gülşah            1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Buovjaga                34
       Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   18
       Philips, Yousuf         13
       Dieter Praas            7
       Tietze, Heiko           4
       Raal                    3
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 3
       Alex Thurgood           2
       Kosiorek, Bartosz       2


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     5.3 : 2/49 -     4 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 2/39 -     5 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/35 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 2/62 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 2/76 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 5/74 -     6 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 6/134 -    4 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/84 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 25/258 -   9 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 413/1767 416/1760 414/1748 425/1735 417/1714 412/1692 405/1663 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   6
        Buovjaga                2
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 500/2376 502/2369 500/2355 510/2341 501/2317 497/2293 486/2260 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   6
        Telesto                 1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 879(+2) bugs open of 6572(+17) total 6(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Buovjaga                   9
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco      3
        Telesto                    3
        Kosiorek, Bartosz          1
        Foote, V Stuart            1
        Balland-Poirier, Laurent   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)
     Writer        - 1(+0)
     Calc          - 1(+0)
     graphics stack - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     Mac OS X      - 3(+0)
     All           - 3(+0)
     Windows       - 0(+0)
     Linux         - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 160(+0)
     Calc                     - 139(+1)
     Impress                  - 89(-1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 74(+0)
     LibreOffice              - 69(+2)
     UI                       - 48(+0)
     graphics stack           - 36(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 35(-1)
     Draw                     - 34(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 34(+2)
     Base                     - 30(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 28(+1)
     Borders                  - 28(+0)
     filters and storage      - 26(+1)
     Chart                    - 19(+0)
     Crashes                  - 18(-1)
     Printing and PDF export  - 16(-2)
     BASIC                    - 15(+0)
     framework                - 5(+0)
     Linguistic               - 2(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     Extensions               - 1(+0)