minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
    + Sophie, Lionel, Robinson, Armin, Jan I, Stephan, Olivier, Miklos,
      Eike, Heiko, Thorsten, Michael M, Christian. Caolán, Michael S,
      Bjoern
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + come back with Calc / maintenance proposal (Michael)
    + E-mail GSoC students: encourage to come to LibOCon, CC mentors (Thorsten)
        [ in action right now ]
    + sent GSOC list to Sophie to check registrations (jani)
    + connect Cloph + Norbert wrt. Mac & Windows machines for base (Lionel/Norbert/Cloph)
        [ account creation for Windows done; Mac still pending sending mail (Cloph) ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
        [ ongoing discussion ? ]
    + tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
    + attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
      on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 5.2.0 RC2
        + tagged yesterday
        + all builds except Win32 already up-loaded
        + Win32 just completed & will be up-loaded
        + Markus fixed the XP compatibiltiy (thanks)
    + libreoffice 5-2-0 branch
        + ensure you cherry-pick fixes to the branch
        + double review needed at this stage
        + when was it created ? (Stephan)
            + right before tagging; very early this morning (Cloph)
        + 12 patches on -5-2 branch not in -5-2-0 (Bjoern)
            + do we need to re-file ?
            + didn't review or pick changes in queue (Cloph)
                + just the XP ones.
                + please do take care of that.
        + please review your patches & target branches v.s 5-2
    + 5.1.5 rc1 : July 12th next week.
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + fixed the crashes on startup
        + builds prepared, but not up-loaded yet
        + want to test on actual devices first.
 
* tinderbox build up-loads (Michael/Robinson)
    + Two problems (Cloph)
       + packaging code missing a ';'
       + tests for some bugs failing without cleartype enabled
          + RDP connections - not working - now disabled.
          + patch here still in gerrit (Miklos)
            + patch is workaround for non-cleartype pixel counts
              + nice XML dump for text positioning is real fix (Thorsten)
       + perl send-email not working for a while (Thorsten)
          + google/SSL changes - builds not notifying.
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/
    + Daily Mac builds? (Robinson)
       + only working with enable-debug configuration.
       + crashes without that; updated machine with el-Capitan
          + for master, but 5.2
       + without daily tinderbox / mac builds until we fix master crashes.
       + release builds are built on release base-line & not affected.
 
* Documentation (Olivier)
    + delivered chapter on 5.1 Draw.
        + last chapter that is missing is Impress - with a volunteer.
    + community stimulation
        + local teams, more active than English speaking community.
        + trying to get some ideas & actions of how to encourage
          English speaking communities.
    + isn't it expected that devs write documentation ? (Heiko)
        + hard for devs to write docs (Olivier)
            + quite a gap here.
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=80430&hide_resolved=1
        + advice to give students workign on UI ?
            + producing bullet points of changes ?
            + been raised before (Olivier)
                + good to encourage students to document this stuff
                + one page on this helps; how to work with it etc.
                + can take & transform to a help page.
                + functions & featrues in calc - no line about them.
                + blog entries great - but any data is good.
                + blogs help qA & l10n too (Sophie)
        + filed a bug to add help menu entries
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96015
                Added request for additional info to make it a valid EasyHack (jani)
 
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
    + Next deadline is August 23rd for final evaluation.
    + poke & ask/encourage students to submit & register for LibOCon
        + particularly for foreign students.
        => will be re-imbursed up to Eur 1k each, for more ask mentor.
    + concern wrt. students returning to university at end of month
        + be aware & work with them etc.
    + reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
 
* Suggested plan for OpenCL in Calc, going ahead (Michael)
    + talked with several Calc guys: Markus, Kohei, Eike etc.
    + help->about details implemented [ good idea ]
    + existing S/W performance unit tests improved [ ongoing ]
    + meeting concerns:
        + pre-qualify OpenCL driver before its use (ideally 1st ever start)
            + move and improve tests -> before first use [ in progress ]
            + have a small, simple spreadsheet: easy to add new tests.
            + disable CL if any problems found.
            + [ also include 'OpenCLZone' early crash / disabler ]
        + ongoing Calc maintenance
            + investing more here; driven by calc guys but plans are:
                + further MDDS corner-case / performance work & debuggability
                + continuing to cleanup formula & acceleration work
                + OpenCL kernel simplification
                + white & black-list improvement / download / sign (?)
                    + could we use the new-driver / test-document for this ?
    + proposal:
        + get CL pre-validation into 5.2.0.x & 5.1.5.1
        + leave defaults as is.
        + re-visit in six months.
    + in general: sounds good (Eike)
        + not fond of adding into 5.1.5 - just one release to fix it.
        + rather switch default for 5.1.5
        + important for us to keep it on (Michael)
           + if it goes wrong - need to commit to fixing it asap (Eike)
              + weeks after RC2 - fixing things in not much time.
        + of ~90 calc patches in - 5.1.x - 12 are us fixing this stuff (Michael)
            + so there is maintenance ongoing.
        + perhaps better to decide when we have the startup / test code (Thorsten)
            + general question: would you trust your business to it ?
            + tests run every time ?
               + just first time when drivers change (Michael)
                   + make it an easy-to-tweak spreadsheet
     + re-visit next week -> check with the calc guys.
     => get this into gerrit for review and see what we can do pre-release (Michael)
         + no veto so far (Thorsten, Eike)
 
* UX Update (Heiko)
  + Proposal to improve layers and object selection in Draw by pushing the navigator
      + issues and enhancement requests around dealing with layers & object selection:
  + early stage hpowever, comments welcome
      + would like to discuss with UX team
      + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bbbjhMcbdbxPT3UQfaGDEhQ5vy2H1qu_a7b9ICeJ3Ck/edit?usp=sharing
      + will run for a few weeks; discuss & -> whiteboard & blog-posts
          + and then get feedback -> pushing to next year's GSOC (?)
          + two stage feedback process.
 
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
    + 0 import failures, 2 export failure, coverity out for a while
    + and with a refreshed bug database / set.
        + up to date with Monday's issues.
    + coverity - now on F24 - doesn't work there
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet.
    + Hamburg Home-hacking setup (Bjoern)
        [ just sent out an E-mail; perhaps in 2 weeks ? ]
    + next venues / suggestions
        + Chaos event - good for outreach; at the same time as Munich.
        + Infra Meetup: July 24th to 30th, close to Munich (kaufbeuren)
        + Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten)
        + more suggestions welcome
    + Autumn / week-long Home-Hacking in Hamburg with students? (Bjoern)-
        + advertise at university ? C++ training ? etc.
 
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno - CfP open (Sophie)
    + Kendy & Thorsten on program committee:
    + 
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2016/04/08/libreoffice-brno-conference-call-for-paper/
        + deadline is mid July.
        => think what to submit / chase people ...
    + travelling to Brno -> fly to Prague / Vienna unlikely to go direct
      (BMI has a flight from Münich, others from London).
 
* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
   + legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- compared to last week
   + summary:
       17045(-98) commits in a year of which 8300(-110) were made directly, without use of gerrit
       294(-1) people made commits in a year, 65(-2) in a month. 51(4) people to be emailed
   + gerrit:   committer open  71(9)      contributor open  51(8)
               updated  merged     abandoned   updated  merged     abandoned
        year:   71(9)    7286(16)   583(16)      51(8)   1459(-4)   472(0)
        month:  71(10)    729(-89)   58(15)      51(8)    184(-4)    32(-1)
        week:   42(2)     137(-16)   23(7)       34(15)    26(-21)    6( 1)
   + easyHacks:
        total 249(20) open 213(9) assigned 16(1)
        needinfo 19(9) needsDevEval 472(1) needsUXEval 144(32)
        missing cleanup due to many comments 197(13)
   + top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
         Zdenek Crhonek got 64 patches merged, and have a total of 83 merged patches
         Muhammet Kara got 25 patches merged, and have a total of 45 merged patches
         Mark Page got 12 patches merged, and have a total of 17 merged patches
         krishna keshav got 9 patches merged, and have a total of 16 merged patches
         Susobhan Ghosh got 9 patches merged, and have a total of 12 merged patches
   + new easyHacks:
       https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100719 mentor:dennisroczek -> "HELPWIKI 
span, div, ol and ul tags needs to be "nowikied""
       https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100726 mentor:muhammet.kara -> "Improve 
readability of OUString concatanations"
       https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100760 mentor:dcb314 -> 
"core/vcl/source/control/tabctrl.cxx:1202]: (style) Redundant condition"
       https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100782 mentor:Katarina.Behrens -> "Have 
XPropertyList and its derivatives hold smart pointers"
   + create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, 
topicCleanup"
   + please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an experienced developer
   + create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
       https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval

   + Abandoning patches due to lack of review, so proposal:
       + have been doing this over a period.
       + When a contributor patch is more than 3 weeks old, has no negative comments
         from reviewers/jenkins and the code looks good, then I merge it
           + will review, even though not an expert in this part.
           + against breaking things (Eike)
               + often takes 2-3 weeks to get to patch reviews.
               + not seen any calc ones - good reviews from Markus & others (JanI)
               + some things easy to judge; some not.
           + alternative - loose contributors - left hanging.
           + negative reviews (Stephan)
               + includes those comments that are negative - but not including -1
               + all the comments are read (JanI)
           + these guys have no comments at all
           + try to guess who is the relevant developer who can do a proper review ? (Miklos)
               + do it every morning, try to assign reviewers.
               + nothing has > 24 hours without a reviewer.
           + many areas where no active maintainer (Miklos)
               + like to restrict it to areas where there are fewer reviewers (Michael)
                   + throw people into maintaining by breaking it (Bjoern)
           + fine with it (Stephan)
           => consensus: let JanI get on with it as above
   + summer time, not many new people
       + a steady set of contributors working towards commitaccess.
   + starting to add code pointers to NEEDINFO, but do need help, suggestions ?
       + have added some to help people.

* Commit Access
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
     => timeout for 8 weeks.
 
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
    + missing him.
 
* l10n (Sophie)
    + lots of work, busy chasing 5.2
        + lots of help file changes.
 
* Screenshot branch (Thorsten)
    + dialog screenshots branch
    + works on Windows & Linux
       + adds things to subsequenttests.
    + sounds cool: overview ? (Michael)
       + TDF tender from ESC, done by CIB.
       + being able to open every dialog, take a screenshot & put it into the help.
       + also able to auto-update the help after that.
           + some dialogs need lots of context.
    + in the subesquenttests - now opens quite some dialogs
       + Bubli fixed a number of problems; Caolan helped out too.
    + Older mockup is here (Heiko)
       + http://picpaste.com/screenshot1-IhK3p0jP.png
 
* QA update (Robinson)
 
    + stats reasonably constant - slightly down.
 
    + UNCONFIRMED: 629
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED
        + enhancements: 60
        + in ux-advise: 27
    + needAdvice at 55
 
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
        + tdf#100295 - LibODev-5.2.0.0.b2 does not run in Windows_XP (32 or 64 bit)
            + fixed by Markus (awesome)
              
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=dc4797a79e3f465e1fa930be7c69d8ec7d91c15e
              
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-5-2&id=8562b1068328e16a629d2397f00af2a3e7998081
        + tdf#92516 - "x" accelerator and mouse click not exiting StartCenter
          in "File -> Exit LibreOffice" menu on Windows.
            + Continue to see dupe reports; an annoyance
        + tdf#100458 - Data loss on loading Calc document with hidden 0 (Jan-Marek)
            + LHM has a lot of documents with this kind of formating
            + Proposed patch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26435/
            + reviewed by Markus:
              
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=21a3d78cf080dc4d86edab2a7378055a2d848bfe 
              still not confident in the patch.
        + Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
            + http://tdf.io/mmregressions (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
            + Couple of Mac issues: will retest with master builds when available
 
* QA stats
 
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +103    -104        (-1 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Samuel Mehrbrodt      14
        Julien Nabet           9
        Buovjaga               7
        Joel Madero            6
        V Stuart Foote         6
        Laurent BP             6
        Caolán McNamara        6
        Eike Rathke            5
        Heiko Tietze           5
        Bartosz Kosiorek       5
        Adolfo Jayme           4
        Winfried Donkers       4
        Alex Thurgood          3
        Cor Nouws              3
        Justin L               2
 
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
        5.2: 4/16   - 25%   -1
        5.1: 2/29   -  6%   +0
        5.0: 7/53   - 13%   +0
        4.4: 7/73   -  9%   +0
        4.3: 5/68   -  7%   +0
        4.2: 8/133  -  6%   +0
        4.1: 4/79   -  5%   +0
        4.0: 10/82  - 12%   +0
        old: 34/248 - 13%   +0
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 359/1378 362/1374 364/1371 367/1371 365/1363 369/1361 366/1354
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 724(-5)) bugs open of 5015(+9) total 12(+1) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc -  5 (+1)
                Writer -  4 (+0)
               Impress -  1 (+0)
                  Base -  1 (+0)
           LibreOffice -  1 (+0)
                + http://tdf.io/regressionscritical
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 225 (+1)
                  Calc - 138 (-0)
               Impress -  58 (-1)
           LibreOffice -  46 (+0)
        graphics stack -  38 (+0)
                    UI -  36 (-1)
               Borders -  32 (+0)
                  Base -  32 (+0)
               Crashes -  29 (-4)
                  Draw -  27 (+0)
   filters and storage -  22 (+0)
                 Chart -  15 (+0)
                 BASIC -  14 (+0)
Printing and PDF export-  11 (+0)
        Formula Editor -   5 (+0)
            Linguistic -   4 (+0)
            Extensions -   3 (+0)
             framework -   3 (+0)
          Installation -   3 (+0)
                + http://tdf.io/allregressions

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