minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
    + Christian, Muthu, Sophie, Stephan, Eike, Norbert, Bjoern, Robinson, janI,
      Caolan, Michael, Andars, Kendy, Olivier, David, Miklos, Michael S, Armin,
      Thorsten, Bubli, Jan-Marek
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + submit development budget to board (Bjoern)
    + encourage Turkish hack-fest date confirmation (Bjoern)
        + April 30th -> May 1st.
    + update release plan for 5.2 and 5.3 (Christian)
        [ added to the wiki and udpated 5.1 version to account for RC3 ]
    + setup a tinderbox VM for VS. 2015 (Christian)
        [ being setup now, planned to hook-up later today ]
    + create the 5.1 projects for pootle (Christian)
        [ are being created and synching now - should be available later
          then will trigger an update for the template project ]
    + talk around the gerrit update with Norbert (Cloph)
        [ gerrit update delayed by the need for 5.1.1.3
          planned to update it in-place this weekend (Norbert)
              + was updating to Debian 8 base-line
              + requires creating a new machine etc.
              + will update in-line instead for now. ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + UI changes from non-committers in gerrit: post list to UX team (Kendy)
         [ assigned to kendy and push to list ]
    + double-check duplicate libmar/src, update/src (Kendy)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian/JanI)
    + got the chance to do a 2nd build (JanI)
    + 5.0.6 RC1 - due April 12th.
    + 5.1.2 RC1 week 11, March 15th
        + planned to be done by Jan
        + Late Features (for 5.1.2)
            + New Slide Transitions: polish
                [ ... debugging & work - some Intel fixing ]
            + UserAgent display & tweakage
                [ still not done ... ]
            + documentation update planned.
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + updates still planned
 
* Documentation (Olivier)
    + asking for help on the list to build docs around new features
    + contacted a couple of new guys interested in helping out there
    + setting up internal tooling, keys etc.
    + branching of translations ?
        + since 5.1 - there are lots of new pages in the help
          that need translation
        + is 5.1 stable in terms of translation ?
            + new pages arrive in master.
        + already branched translations (Cloph)
            + bug in rc2 tag that made people think there was an issue.
            => why we had RC3 - there is no issue, move along.
            + pootle is currently being filled up as of now
                + tomorrow it will be done: separate master & 5.1 branches.
                + changes on master will not harm translators.
 
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten, JanI)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + 3 admin volunteers: janI, Moggi, Thorsten
    + next step - mid next month: opens for students to apply.
    + last chance to add new GSoC ideas
        + people without projects to mentor: Eike, Caolan, Michael M, Norbert, Andras
    + if you did not get a mentor invite ping us
    + unclear quite where to sign-up; not seen a mail (Bjoern)
      + subject: "GSoC 2016: Invitation to be a Mentor for LibreOffice" from 
<summerofcode-noreply@google.com>
AI:   + poke an admin if you didn't get the memo (All)
         resent mail to Bjoern and Michael (janI)
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + statistics being built from the draw survey by Heiko
    + last meeting - finalized the sidebar survey
        + if you have a view - please participate.
        + where do surveys show up ? (Michael)
            + on the planet ?
        + design blog should be subscribed & shows up (Kendy)
            + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/02/26/what-do-you-expect-from-the-sidebar-in-libreoffice/
    + budget requests from design & docs team
    + lots of GSOC talk.
        + interest there, but need mentors.
 
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
    + 6 import failures, 0 export failures, 31 coverity
    + new coverity numbers expected by tomorrow
        + expected to shrink.
    + coverity - expected to halve, removed lots of Java bits.
 
* drop gstreamer 0.10/bump baseline (tdf#94508) (Bjoern)
    + are there parallel installable packages for 1.0 for CentOS6 ? (Michael)
    + don't know if we have packages (Caolan)
AI: + attempt to re-build a recent 1.0 / core spec file on CentOS6 (Cloph)
        + if that fails, abandon it; use a distro package ?
 
* development budget, late addition: "kill scp2" tender (Bjoern)
    + proposal to tender to kill scp2.
    + has lots of windows installer logic included
    + 15k under-maintained LOC
    + problems caused like GL file-list missing
    + do-able from releng, or tender it ?
    + is it split-able into easy-hacks ? (Kendy)
        + already have auto-install one (Bjoern)
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90753
        + are there somewhat mechanical steps ? (Kendy)
            + converted 50 files - and happy !
        + some - like auto-install; can be done in gbuild tdf#90753 (Bjoern)
            + some dark awfulness for Windows.
    + functionality around registry entries,
      custom actions etc. (Timar)
    + goal to kill make_installer.pl msidb ? (Michael)
        + goal to kill make_installer for Linux at least (Bjoern)
        + technical level happy (Norbert)
            + not so happy with the tender.
    + not broken just now - why break it (Stephan)
        + concerns wrt. lack of pressing urgent need.
    => make a clearer proposal.
 
* Windows / fonts (Michael)
    + please read my mail; freetype / harfbuzz everywhere ?
        + seems sensible (Michael S)
            + concerned wrt. resources to maintain 5x different
              platform rendering backends.
        + users expect stability across platforms (Miklos)
        + any insight into up-stream / harfbuzz development (Thorsten)
            + do we become the maintainer ?
            + background: Chromium already gone to harfbuzz everywhere (Caolan)
                + perhaps less of a layout concern.
            + thought about it in the past
                + ways from Adobe to add weird fonts.
                + pros can be unhappy.
            + OpenType helps & 
            + concerned if it is a good idea.
        + not just Chromium using Harfbuzz on Win+Mac - also Mozilla (Michael S)
            + maintainer employed by Google, working full-time.
            + harfbuzz - has configuration mode; will not render fonts
              by itself, but can use uniscribe on Windows
                  + but encapsulates that with HarfBuzz API.
                  https://cgit.freedesktop.org/harfbuzz/tree/src/hb-shaper-list.hh
                  https://cgit.freedesktop.org/harfbuzz/tree/src/hb-uniscribe.cc
            + happy if that's reasonably serious (Thorsten)
        + damned if you do, or don't (Norbert)
    + love a free-software font rendering stack we can fix (Michael)
        + will need, for Windows - to use whatever weird Adobe fonts (Thorsten)
            + people feel strongly about their weird fonts.
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + next venues / suggestions
        + Ankara, Turkey
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Ankara2016
            + talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
                + suggested date: 2016-04-30
            + hope to go & do an overview talk first (Michael)
            + DavidO hoping to go
        + Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
            + April 6-8th (7-9th) possibly
                + Plan is to craft it according to the Japanese
                  Mini-Conference, with a broader local community appeal
                https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit
            + announced on Spanish list (janI)
        + Germany, Munich, LiMux; End of May 2016 (Jan-Marek)
            + Orga: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2016/05/de/Munich
            + Weekend doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/LiMux_Hackfest_May_2016/
                + 19-21 or 27-29
                + closes next Mon -> select weekend.
 
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
     + gerrit: 160 open patches of which 107 can be merged if no open comments
                76 from contributors of which 44 can be merged if no open comments 
     + GSoC commits, please give a hand to get patches merged, so we can evaluate students
         + need to have a good review to evaluate them.
     + added needsDevEval (easyHacks) to ESC report
            + 399 needs evaluation (and code pointers) please give a hand
            + lots can be converted to easy-hacks, but needs code-pointers.
     + Gerrit monthly abandon patches (only 1, so the regular work starts to pay off)
     + started working on a tool to update easyhacks with many bz comments
     + added as infra-tdf admin
     + EasyHack https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91794
         + Discuss of when to use #if 0, and to use/not use #ifdef <module>_DEBUG
             + lack of consensus here.
         + rationale so far (Bjoern)
             + we have two somewhat tinderboxed/CIed debug levels:
                 + compatible build
                      (--enable-debug/--enable-selective-debuginfo/"make sfx.clean && make debug=t 
sfx2")
                      => must be compatible with rest of the build being non-debug
                 + incompatible build (--enable-dbgutil)
                      => must be compatible with rest of the build being dbgutil
             + IMHO it doesnt make sense to have more than these two debug levels (would bitrot 
anyway):
                 => move all code in one of those or kill it
             + some code v. expensive / specifix (Norbert)
                 + sympathetic to having it around.
                 + dislike #if OSL_DEBUG_LEVEL > 1 etc. (Bjoern)
             + there are valid use cases for _DEBUG code (Eike/[Moggi])
                 + see for example DEBUG_MATRIX in calc
                 + code for debugging complex data structures
                 + impossible to debug some parts of the code without such code
                     + impossible to write that code each time you need to debug it
             + agree with removing several debug levels (Eike)
                 + but leave DEBUG_FOO macros
                 + doing it blindly a problem; needs some insight & review.
             + could handle macros similarly for config feature-tests (Stephan)
                 + where we define them as all as zero
                 + and everywhere #if DEBUG_FOO etc. so we don't get
                   new ones of these
                 + could change them all to 1 to avoid bit-rot
                 + good to document them centrally.
                 + concern wrt. ripple include (Michael)
          + we have around 15 pending (JanI)
              + concerned wrt. actions on review feedback.
          + wine has some complex debug env. var (JMux)
              + could be used to turn off expensive stuff (Stephan)
AI:       => switch easy-hack to turn: OSL_DEBUG_LEVEL > 1 to OSL_DEBUG_LEVEL > 0 (Bjoern)
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + nothing apart from glad to fix rc2.
    + genlang was introduced recently - what is it ? (Kendy)
        + an old project, brought in, currently runs as it used to run (JanI)
        + reading the code extracting & merging l10n
        + it replaces ulfex etc. into a C++ hierarchy using
          lex to describe things so it is maintainable.
        + 1st ver -> don't change the po files.
            + goal is to generate the same po files as now.
    + including Online translations to pootle ? (Andras)
        + will do it once we have updated the project (Sophie, Cloph)
            + want the 5.1 project setup first.
 
* Commit Access
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + pending next cycle.
 
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
 
    from:Thu Feb 25 14:38:32 2016
    master linux rel  jobs:180 ok:163 ko:17  fail ratio:9.44%  break:8 broken  duration:7.95%
    master linux dbg  jobs:154 ok:134 ko:20  fail ratio:12.98% break:13 broken duration:10.09%
    master mac rel    jobs:172 ok:163 ko:9   fail ratio:5.23%  break:1 broken  duration:8.59%
    master mac dbg    jobs:171 ok:162 ko:9   fail ratio:5.26%  break:1 broken  duration:8.65%
    master win rel    jobs:136 ok:114 ko:22  fail ratio:16.17% break:12 broken duration:15.09%
    master win dbg    jobs:130 ok:79  ko:51  fail ratio:39.23% break:5 broken  duration:43.11%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:135 ok:76  ko:59  fail ratio:43.7%  break:6 broken  duration:46.17%
    lo-5.0 mac        jobs:8   ok:7   ko:1   fail ratio:12.49% break:1 broken  duration:38.47%
    gerrit win rel    jobs:271 ok:216 ko:52  fail ratio:19.18%
    gerrit lin rel    jobs:274 ok:212 ko:60  fail ratio:21.89%
    gerrit mac rel    jobs:274 ok:221 ko:53  fail ratio:19.34%
    gerrit all        jobs:271 ok:161 ko:105 fail ratio:38.74%
        + less good last week; windows debug 50% dead.
            + 13 distinct breaks on Linux.
* Easy Hacks (JanI)
    + easyHacks: total 307: 287 waiting for contributor, 9 Assigned to contributors, 8 need info
                 needsDevEval 399 needs to be evaluated
                 cleanup: 228 has more than 4 comments, 256 needs to be reviewed
        new last 8 days:
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98264 mentor:markus.mohrhard -> 
"use correct cppunit assert macros in calc's unit test"
        need info (mentor or code pointer), please help:
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97283 mentor:dtardon -> "merge unit 
tests in sal module"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57174 mentor:harman.eric -> "When 
Opening Any Dialog the First Value in the Dialog Should be Selected"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86214 mentor:luuk34 -> "UI: User 
isn't warned that entering a cell address is not allowed as range name"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67544 mentor:kobzeci -> "FILESAVE: 
Slide transistion sound(other sound) is not included in presentation file"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79924 mentor:alban.crequy -> 
"LibreOffice should use stemp in other directories than $HOME first"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66876 mentor:idler.1st -> 
"[Sidebar]  Large icons are not used"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97803 mentor:d.ostrovsky -> 
"gbuild: check that everything in instdir/ ends up packaged in the end"
            https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94695 mentor:straub -> 
"osl_createHostAddrByAddr uses non-threadsafe gethostbyaddr"
AI:            + suggest removing whiteboard tag of some of the older, needinfo (JanI)
            + concern that the mentor: flag is not correct (Bjoern)
               + eg. Stephan for the last, and Cor Nous for another.
               + comes with the new tool (JanI)
    + create your own by updating Keywords to eg.
            "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
    + create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
      (or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
 
* QA update (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED:     724
        + going up again.
        + enhancements: 73
        + in ux-advise: 29
    + needAdvice at 26
 
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
        + tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong
            [ fixed - thanks to Armin,
              should back-port to -5-1 & -5-0 ?
              
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=1c85800345239754d5c4ec71c2aad526d0439eea
              there is a 'cherry-pick' button in gerrit (Norbert) ]
AI:               + write a cheat-sheet & mail to Armin (Norbert)
        + tdf#96172 - Crash in layout SwSectionFrame after opening particular document
            [ layout crash is pre-existing, and we fixed the imports change (Michael S)
                + you can still import an equivalent ODT ]
        + tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
            + Persists as Common issue -> lots of duplicates
        + Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
            + http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
            + Patch-set coming (Kendy)
                + fixed printing, but sending E-mails glitches + unit test not passing
            + (also pending AI: push the last MM fix to 5.0 too)
                + lots of other stuff going on (JMux)
        + tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4 & 5.x)
            + Crash with daily builds (2016-02-18)
 
* QA stats
 
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +191    -93        (+98 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Beluga                13
        Yousuf (Jay) Philips   7
        Adolfo Jayme           7
        raal                   6
        Michael Meeks          5
        Timur                  5
        Maxim Monastirsky      4
        V Stuart Foote         4
        Julien Nabet           3
        David Tardon           3
        Cor Nouws              3
        m.a.riosv              3
        Miklos Vajna           2
        Samuel Mehrbrodt       2
        Jürgen Mähnß           1
 
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
        5.2: 1/4   - 25%    +0
        5.1: 2/25   - 8%    +0
        5.0: 10/52 - 19%    +1
        4.4: 12/75 - 16%    +0
        4.3: 5/68   - 7%    +0
        4.2: 11/134 - 8%    +0
        4.1: 4/79   - 5%    +0
        4.0: 10/81  - 12%   +0
        old: 39/248 - 15%   +0
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 412/1284 408/1277 403/1260 398/1248 402/1247 408/1242 409/1238
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 780(+10) bugs open of 4741(+22) total 31(+0) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc - 12 (+0)
                Writer -  9 (-1)
           LibreOffice -  4 (+0)
               Impress -  3 (+1)
                  Base -  2 (+0)
            Extensions -  1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 240 (+6)
                  Calc - 169 (+3)
               Crashes -  57 (+3)
           LibreOffice -  54 (+0)
               Impress -  51 (-1)
                    UI -  40 (-1)
        graphics stack -  39 (+1)
               Borders -  32 (+0)
                  Base -  29 (+1)
                  Draw -  27 (+0)
   filters and storage -  20 (+1)
                 BASIC -  15 (+0)
                 Chart -  14 (-1)
Printing and PDF export-  10 (+0)
        Formula Editor -   6 (+0)
            Linguistic -   4 (+0)
            Extensions -   3 (+0)
             framework -   2 (+0)
          Installation -   2 (+0)
                   sdk -   1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i

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