Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-09-10

* Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Mattias, Stuart
 
* UI changes integrated the last week:

    + Sifr icon set updates (Matthias)
    + Improvements in the remote file dialog (Szymon)
    + Custom color for data bars (Bubli)
    + Don't hide zoom slider with a tooltip (Laszlo)
    + Hide separator between two windows (Maxim)
 
* Update the meeting time (Kendy)
 
    + current time inconvenient quite a bit, what would be the best time? (Kendy)
    + let's do a doodle (Heiko)
 
* LibreOffice Conference
 
    + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark
    + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/
    + would be great to have you all there :-)
 
* GSoC
 
    + Rishabh to continue some changes after he's done with the exams
 
* Help updating (Jay/Kendy)
 
    + Jay started hacking the HelpAuthoring extension, thanks so much! :-) (Kendy)
    + help-related meta bugs:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
    + wikihelp? (Jay)
        + help proposal
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
            + yes; unfortunately long-term (Kendy)
    + add repo path to wiki help
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94044
        + easily doable (Kendy)
    + HelpAuthoring now reasonably OK for new help pages, but one has to be extremely
      careful when editing existing stuff (Kendy)
    + Need to know which help tags and attributes are not important, e.g. <history> in <meta> (Jay)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 
    + Please push Kendy (Jay)
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/18322
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/18321
        + pushed now (Kendy)
 
    + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90790
        + went through the reproducer with Jay, it's an additional bug (Kendy)
            + will create a report (Jay)
              https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
 
    + Heiko will met Andreas at the KDE sprint (Heiko)
        + if there is anything do discuss, let Heiko know
        + Uri will there too
        + is Andreas going to the LibreOffice conference too?  Would be great to meet finally :-) 
(Kendy)
            + unfortunately not
 
    + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
        + would be good to have versinos that use lighter colors (Jay)
        + ideally done in S/W (Kendy)
        + please create a bug for that Jay (Kendy)
            + I'll add the code pointers then (Kendy)
 
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
* Templates Competition (Jay)
 
    + Wiki page setup
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0
    + many new templates
    + unfortunately missed the 5.0 :-( (Jay)
        + but would be still good to add to master - so that we don't miss 5.1 (Kendy)
 
* 5.0 Artwork (Jay)
 
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements should be updated with the new 5.0 stuff
    + will put the 5.0 stuff together (Kendy)
        + or ask Cloph (Kendy)
 
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 
    + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
 
    + replace "UX principles" https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Principles by "HIG"
      on http://www.libreoffice.org/community/design";?
        + UX principles good & relevant, but not specific enough (Heiko)
        + suggest to change this link to the HIG instead:
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines
        + conclusion: Will mail website@global.libreoffice.org (Heiko) / done
        + Stuart recommends to wait with pushing the HIG to a more prominent place until it is more 
refined. (Stuart/Heiko)
    + sidebar + dialogs
        + added to wiki
 
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Friday session this week (Sep/04)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
        + Print dialog - Bubli's proposals / asks: "Improving printing UX" thread tdf#91362, 
tdf#61186
        + had the session with Bubli
            + http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-PrintDialog
            + conclusion: remove File -> Printer Settings..., the settings are available
              via Tools -> Options... and File -> Print... already
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing