Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [GSoC] Improve user experience with CMIS – Weekly report #6

Am 24.07.2015 12:28:27, schrieb Szymon Kłos:
> > > * when opening the "Open Remote", and there is no service added yet, the
> > >   "Add service" dialog should open directly
> > I wouldn't do so. It's pretty clear that no service has been configured. 
>
> I've already implemented this and rest of kendy's proposals (not marked
> as 'to be discussed') :) I will push my changes to the master branch
> then you will be able to try it.


Had a discussion with Kendy on IRC. His argument is convenience and unambiguousness - no need to 
click the 'add service' button where nothing else is possible (when the add service dialog is 
canceled you end in the empty dialog). I care about consitency and user expectation - to run 
functions automatically is a wizard-like behavior and not common in Libreoffice; the mental step 
from open remote file to add service needs to be done anyway. Another disadvantage is that writing 
a guideline for dialogs is not getting easier.
Both opinions are valid, and if we do not get more input here either the user or the developer 
decides eventually. 
 
> > > * when opening the "Open Remote" dialog, either the list of files should
> > >   be populated (using the currently selected service), or some feedback
> > >   should be given that some user action is expected first
> > +1 for showing the list of files
> > (currently the list is updated when an item from the service dropdown is 
> > selected)
>
> Most of services needs authorization, so first the login box appears and
> then files will be shown (if password isn't remembered). Problem I have
> is: if password is no needed, dialog will appear only after getting
> files from remote server. During this time LO is not responsive.


If we automatically start the add service function we could also present a list of services to 
choose one in order to initialize the dialog. Alternatively, the dropdown with predefined services 
should be empty or showing the advice 'Select a service'. And if all fails we rather add the 
refresh button instead of requiring the user to click somewhere.

> I also have a proposal to add "New Folder" button in the save mode. Now
> it is possible to save files in the existing directories only. When user
> want to save in a folder other than root, must create it using other
> tools.


 Same as for my resentments about adding the refresh button: If dialogs may show any buttons we do 
not manage consistency (at least at the dialog bottom). But I agree with small, toolbar-like  
buttons without caption perhaps, above the list of files. And of course the context menu may (and 
should) provide the functionality.