Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-06-17

* Present: Heiko, Jay, Mattias, Kendy
 
* UI changes integrated the last week:
 
    + Impress menubar reorganized (Jay)
    + Added outline buttons to impress sidebar (Maxim)
    + Adapted the numbering popup to more than 8 items (Maxim)
    + Enabled gtk3 backend by default (Caolán, Miklos)
    + Fixed icon links (Jay)
    + More Background / Highlighting fixes (Tamas)
    + .ui improvements (Maxim)
    + More sifr icons (Matthias)
    + More breeze icons (Andreas)
    + TreeView in the Expert configuration dialog (Mihály)
 
* Sifr icon patches that need to be cherry picked for 5.0 (Jay)
 
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16115/
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16120/
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16128/
        + Adolfo pushed
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16261/
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16254/
        + pushed by Adolfo too
 
* Important icons were removed by Andrew like lc_styleupdatebyexample.png (Jay)

    + 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=18f41dfaf19d656d290c47d196ef2702e169a522
        + restored lc_styleupdatebyexample.png
        + will check with Andrew what was the criteria for removal (Jay)
 
* Problems with Icons (Jay)
 
   + MAB - links.txt
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90790
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92105
   + is it possible to do build-time?  Like, can one icon point to one icon in one theme,
     but to other in another theme  (Kendy)
       + turns out there is some support for more links.txt's in the code, so a bug,
         not a missing functionality (Kendy)
AI     + fix it... (Kendy)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 
    + if an icon is missing, Jay can add the needed XML snippet (Andreas/Jay)
 
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay)
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + nearly finished with icons (Andreas)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + UI-freeze for 5.0.0 this week (cloph)
        + last chance to change default icon theme for other OS/decide not to change it
 
* Templates Competition (Jay)
 
    + Wiki page setup
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0
    + need to sync with Italo, poked him (Jay)
 
* Next Friday's design session (Jay)
 
    + Friday session this week
        + context menus, sidebars?  Menus?
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00 UTC
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus 
user unfriendly,
          creates frustration and clutters the UI."
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824
 
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 
    + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
 
    + content now in the wiki
    + next steps: context menu, sidebar, dialogs
 
* Calc default styles
 
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90937
    + 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bt2Gr0JslOLL86xb-bCl76mji5AhHT_8VI-5Wp5Qyq0/edit?usp=sharing
        + agreed the new default: H217:H238 in the spreadsheet
        + when done, will send the colors / style to Jay/Moggi (Mattias)
 
    + code for this is here:
        + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/sc/source/core/data/stlpool.cxx#n275
    
    + moggi willing to spend some hacking on using an actual template file instead of the hardcoded 
stuff (Jay)

* Improving the Use of Styles in Writer (Jay)

    + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1onHj7GLNs-x9jMJBRsYaRLv_xsN3UJhP13P690L6ci8/edit?usp=sharing