Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-06-10

* Present: Andreas, Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Philippe (just for a while)
 
* Completed Action Items:
 
* Pending Action Items:
 
    + [see the pad]

* UI changes integrated the last week:
 
    + Calc menubar reorganized (Jay)
    + Default to the Breeze icon theme on OS X (Kendy)
    + Sifr improvements, new icons (Matthias)
    + Tango updates (Adolfo)
    + Fixed inc/dec buttons in Impress (Maxim)
    + Added Outline buttons to the Impress sidebar (Maxim)
    + Adapt the numbering popup to more than 8 items (Maxim)
 
* #libreoffice-dev IRC channel now has ops (Jay)
 
    + topic can be updated with whatever important is necessary etc.
 
* Sifr icon patches that need to be cherry picked for 5.0 (Jay)
 
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16115/
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16120/
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16128/
AI  + will do that (Kendy)
 
* Team members should add their info to the wiki (Jay)
 
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Team
    + go ahead with the changes, Jay (Kendy)
        + usernames: htietze (/done), Kendy, andreas_ka, ***fill in youself***
    + maybe change it more into a kind of Credits page? (Kendy)
    + contacts are still useful (Jay)
 
* Start Center for 5.0 (Andreas)
 
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452
    + 48x48 icons
    + background colors should change:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452#c45
        + https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116355
        + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding#Contributions_submitted_so_far
        + consensus: let's go ahead with these colors
AI  + update the colors & notify the Visual Identity group (Kendy)
 
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
        + still not decided
 
* Hicontrast icon theme (Andreas)
 
    + IIRC it depends on the system settings (Kendy)
    + the ideas for Sifr was to change the color programatically (Jay)
        + installation size (Kendy)
        + not the primary problem; synchronization with the ligth theme is more concerning (Andreas)
        + when does it happen? (Andreas)
            + when we find a hacker - happy to give the code pointers... (Kendy)
            + but cannot promise it myself ATM :-( (Kendy)
 
    + Breeze-dark
        + https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/LibreOffice_Breeze
            + has a script to generate the dark variant
        + possibilities:
            + have it in the repo, but not build by default
            + build it too
            + kill hicontrast icon theme, and instead use breeze-dark
            + find somebody to code the color changing on the fly
        + will ask in the ESC if the non-coding possibilities are acceptable before
          we have the code (Kendy)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 
    + if an icon is missing, Jay can add the needed XML snippet (Andreas/Jay)
 
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
        + Adolfo has pushed new icons (Jay)

    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay)
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + nearly finished with icons (Andreas)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
* Templates (Jay)
 
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_4.4
    + would be good to have more! (Jay)
    + worked on a template with Mattias (Jay)
        + called 'Modern literature book'
    + impress template categories listed here (Making Impress A UX Princess)
      
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ri2jznhcQmCtk3cVygEhwN7pi8FkbIVV_OvRQce_n6Y/edit#heading=h.lbg8tx7i5p99
    + focus: the impress templates (Jay)
        + still not a good solution for translating templates :-( (Kendy)
    + will sync with mkt people (Jay)
 
* Next Friday's design session (Jay)
 
    + no Friday session this week
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus 
user unfriendly,
          creates frustration and clutters the UI."
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824
 
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 
    + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
 
    + content now in the wiki
    + next steps: context menu, sidebar