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Today's Topics:
1. is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ? (Caol?n McNamara)
2. OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in StartModule
(Fernand Vanrie)
3. LibreOffice Gerrit News for core on 2014-03-14
(gerrit@libreoffice.org)
4. Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan (imacat)
5. Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
(Stephan Bergmann)
6. Re: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in
StartModule (Stephan Bergmann)
7. Bad empty file at
<
http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
(Stephan Bergmann)
8. spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Caol?n McNamara)
9. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Alex Thurgood)
10. Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
(Caol?n McNamara)
11. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Khaled Hosny)
12. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Caol?n McNamara)
13. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Alex Thurgood)
14. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Khaled Hosny)
15. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Alex Thurgood)
16. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Caol?n McNamara)
17. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Alex Thurgood)
18. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Alex Thurgood)
19. Manmeet Singh license statement (Manmeet Singh)
20. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Caol?n McNamara)
21. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
(Rob Snelders)
22. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ? (Cor Nouws)
23. (Manas Joshi)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:05:25 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
Cc: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
Subject: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
Message-ID: <1394744725.11727.14.camel@vain.rhgalway>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
(it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
C.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:07:40 +0100
From: Fernand Vanrie <sos@pmgroup.be>
To: LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in StartModule
Message-ID: <53221E1C.20106@pmgroup.be>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
With 4.2 (Windows)
Private Extensions menu's are no longer visible in the StartModule
Private Toolbars are still visible in the StartModule
<node oor:name="OfficeMenuBar">
<node oor:name="MyPrivateMenu.OfficeMenuBar" oor:op="replace">
<prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
<value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
</prop>
this menu shows in the different modules but
"com.sun.star.frame.StartModule" is sillently ignored
<node oor:name="MyPrivate Toolbar.OfficeToolBar" oor:op="replace">
<node oor:name="m001" oor:op="replace">
<prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
<value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
</prop>
here the Menubar is showed in the startModule
is it forbidden to show private Menu's in the start Module ?
Thanks for any hint
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:00:01 -0000
From: gerrit@libreoffice.org
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: qa@fr.libreoffice.org
Subject: LibreOffice Gerrit News for core on 2014-03-14
Message-ID: <20140314060115.A37D84C02C7@gerrit.libreoffice.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Moin!
* Open changes on master for project core changed in the last 25 hours:
~~~~ First time contributors doing great things! ~~~~
+ fdo#63154 Remove some solar.h references
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8582 from Alexandre Vicenzi
about module accessibility, editeng, include, sd
+ fdo#76122: File Corruption-doc contains nested tables with Word Art
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8575 from Yogesh Bharate
about module sw
+ fdo#64290 UI: count selected rows and columns
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8489 from Sujay m
about module officecfg, sc
+ Cleaned code and comments
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8569 from Matteo Campanelli
about module starmath
+ fdo#76098 ContentType for .xlsm external data file is wrong
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8572 from Ravindra Vidhate
about module sw
+ Added files
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8566 from Matteo Campanelli
about module starmath
+ Added code for keeping ratio and having right positioning
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8568 from Matteo Campanelli
about module starmath
+ Created behavior for SmDynIntegralNode
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8567 from Matteo Campanelli
about module starmath
+ Created Dynamic Integral Symbols class
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8565 from Matteo Campanelli
about module starmath
~~~~ End of freshness ~~~~
+ fdo#74702 Return true if graphics is set, cleanup unused variables
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8581 from Chris Sherlock
about module vcl
+ fdo#74775: Preseved Citation after round trip.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8473 from Rohit Deshmukh
about module sw, writerfilter
+ Remove visual noise from ios
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8274 from Alexander Wilms
about module ios
* Merged changes on master for project core changed in the last 25 hours:
+ fdo#76078: LO Crashes while saving the docx file containing only opening
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8561 from Dinesh Patil
+ fdo#74772 : File Corruption - Issue related to List Bullet Numbering
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8539 from Rajashri Udhoji
* Abandoned changes on master for project core changed in the last 25
hours:
None
* Open changes needing tweaks, but being untouched for more than a week:
+ Refactored swooxmlexport tests cases. Added function to check contents.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8390 from Nikhil Walvekar
+ FDO#74886: Data labels are not preserved for Column Chart in RT file
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8098 from Umesh Kadam
+ sal: use posix_memalign only if it's available
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8405 from Douglas Mencken
+ fdo#71984 fix first line indentation in footnotes for MS Word documents
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8160 from Andras Timar
+ fd0#74150:Numbered list getting display after RT -table-within-table-1.do
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7767 from Rajashri Udhoji
+ Lots of changes to Tango icons
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7987 from Miroslav Mazel
+ sw/docx export: fix handling of document with header and section(s)
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6248 from Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
+ fdo#51525 Fix duplicate "Paste Special" entries in Calc.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7784 from Andrzej Hunt
+ fdo#72661: Check ?Hyphenation active? automatically
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7291 from Jiwoong Youn
+ sa/l add release_assert() and assert that stay even in release code
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7625 from Norbert Thiebaud
+ fdo#69407: On transparent frames, shadows are painted in foreground.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7070 from Mohamed-Ali BEN MANSOUR
+ add a header to provide posix compatible wrapper for platform lacking
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6837 from Norbert Thiebaud
+ WIP fdo#72987 Use firebird backup format for .odb
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7299 from Andrzej Hunt
+ sw/export docx: add unit test for document with header and section(s)
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6249 from Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
+ fix for exporting of text watermark to DOCX
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5568 from Adam CloudOn
+ WIP: fdo#33980 Preserve selection across all slide sorters.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6633 from Andrzej Hunt
+ startcenter: Make SC open faster by timeouting thumbnails
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6102 from Krisztian Pinter
+ Simplify oslThreadIdentifier on Linux 32.
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5553 from Arnaud Versini
+ fdo#36791 : fix for import of greeting card
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4240 from Adam CloudOn
+ Positional Tab additions
in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5387 from Adam CloudOn
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:05:36 +0800
From: imacat <imacat@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
To: LibreOffice Development <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan
Message-ID: <5322B850.4000508@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:17:51 +0100
From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
To: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
Cc: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
Message-ID: <5322BB2F.2020504@redhat.com>
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On 03/13/2014 10:05 PM, Caol?n McNamara wrote:
Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
(it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
As dead as it gets, I'd say---apparently for 10 years now. (The
Extension Mgr has its own
desktop/source/deployment/gui/license_dialog.hxx for displaying any
extension licenses.)
Stephan
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:24:41 +0100
From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in
StartModule
Message-ID: <5322CAD9.3030802@redhat.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 03/13/2014 10:07 PM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
With 4.2 (Windows)
Private Extensions menu's are no longer visible in the StartModule
Private Toolbars are still visible in the StartModule
<node oor:name="OfficeMenuBar">
<node oor:name="MyPrivateMenu.OfficeMenuBar"
oor:op="replace">
<prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
<value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
</prop>
this menu shows in the different modules but
"com.sun.star.frame.StartModule" is sillently ignored
[...]
is it forbidden to show private Menu's in the start Module ?
I would rather assume this is an unintended regression with the new
start center code.
Stephan
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:31:09 +0100
From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
To: libreoffice-dev <LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Bad empty file at
<
http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
Message-ID: <5322DA6D.5050609@redhat.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Quoting <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65795#c7> on
"Syntax error in Extension Manager when trying to update":
"The reason [for the syntax error] is that
<http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
references a completely empty file. That URL is the value of the
ExtensionUpdateURL property in the version ini file. It is used by
getDefaultUpdateInfos (desktop/source/deployment/misc/dp_update.cxx) to
try and obtain 'backup' update information from one central place for
all those extensions that fail to provide their own update information.
The current
<http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
URL is used since
<
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=52456c0acaaebe1c85d07c90a94a82c9efa4850f
'Switch all urls from TDF to LibreOffice.' The prior, OOo-specific URL
<
http://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
still delivers a file starting with
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; xml:lang="en-US">
<title>Extension Update Feed</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="
http://extensions.openoffice.org"/>
<updated>2013-03-18T12:03:22+00:00</updated>
"I have no idea who is responsible for the empty file at
<http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>.
"I see three options to fix this:
"1 Fix the file at
<http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
to conform to the expected syntax (even if it would not contain any true
payload yet, but could do so in the future). That would fix this issue
even for already released versions of LO.
"2 Give the ExtensionUpdateURL property in the version ini file an
empty value. That would not fix this issue for already released
versions of LO, and for future versions of LO would disable the
(currently unused) feature of providing such central 'backup' extension
update information (until we change the value back in a later release).
"3 Remove the (currently unused) feature of providing such central
'backup' extension update information completely from the code. That
would not fix this issue for already released versions of LO.
"I favour option 1 and will see to get hold of somebody to fix the file
at <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
."
So, who can fix that file (or propose a better fix)?
Stephan
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:45:15 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl>
Subject: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
Message-ID: <1394793915.11727.32.camel@vain.rhgalway>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On (non-MacOSX) unix we have "spadmin" the printer administration tool.
Over the years the amount of stuff it does has been reduced, e.g. it no
longer admins fonts, that's done through fontconfig now. It now no
longer provides a font-substitution tab page as that's redundant
functionality now. It now no longer provides a route to migrate your
archaic StarOffice printer configuration to the current one.
So what's left:
a) you can "connect a fax device"
b) you can "connect a PDF converter"
c) you can "add a printer"
d) you can disable cups support
I would like to simplify the situation to "we use cups" and remove
spadmin and all its many associated dialogs and tabpages in favor of the
system printer management software. So the question is if any part of
spadmin is still useful? Is there anyone still configuring fax machines
or using the other options there, and if so for what purpose ?
The last time I tried to get rid of spadmin (in 2004) in Fedora there
was push back because there were still people using fax machines. 10
years later, is this still the case ? If this is still a relevant use
case then I can invest a little time in examining the fax-cups options
out there and figure out how to correctly send the destination phone
number to them and recommend that as the new fax support mechanism.
C.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:31:50 +0100
From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
Message-ID: <lfupaj$3i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
Hi Caolan,
Judging from the posts I have seen on the user list since LO came into
existence, there are still some use cases where CUPS does not provide
the required support and people need to be able to fall back to spadmin
for printing.
The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are no
longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
also in BZ) for some people.
The problem as I see it is that there are so many printers out there
being used by LO users, some of them quite old now (yet tried and
trusted, especially in business), for which CUPS support has been
dropped or curbed over time, and it is handy to be able to pop in one's
own PPD to just get the job done.
From my own experience, the switch to "CUPS ONLY" by default caused the
loss of being able to print from two different trays in one document
over the network, i.e. have page 1 print out on header paper in a first
or manual tray, and then subsequent pages from the follow-on paper tray.
This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
including on Mac OSX. I have not yet found a way to this with CUPS,
having been reduced to separate printing steps for each set of pages.
I have no idea whether such use cases are still representative of the
mainstream usage of LO, but it is certainly around in businesses with
legacy printers that are still functioning. I have used HP LJs (4050n,
2500dtn, Apple LaserWriter) in business scenarii in the past with OOo
and the ability to fiddle with the PPD to get things working right was
the saving grace on many occasion.
Alex
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:06:09 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman@redhat.com>
Cc: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
Message-ID: <1394798769.11727.33.camel@vain.rhgalway>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 09:17 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
On 03/13/2014 10:05 PM, Caol?n McNamara wrote:
Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
(it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
As dead as it gets, I'd say---apparently for 10 years now. (The
Extension Mgr has its own
desktop/source/deployment/gui/license_dialog.hxx for displaying any
extension licenses.)
Gone now.
C.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:18:25 +0200
From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>
To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
Message-ID: <20140314121825.GA9245@khaled-laptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:31:50PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
Hi Caolan,
Judging from the posts I have seen on the user list since LO came into
existence, there are still some use cases where CUPS does not provide
the required support and people need to be able to fall back to spadmin
for printing.
So the question is, how other applications are handled? Do those people
print exclusively using LibreOffice?
(I always export to PDF and print from the PDF viewer myself as I find
printing from LibreOffice to be too mysterious for my limited
understanding of how printers work.)
Regards,
Khaled
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:40:46 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
Message-ID: <1394800846.11727.46.camel@vain.rhgalway>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 12:31 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are no
longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
also in BZ) for some people.
Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little more.
This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
including on Mac OSX.
I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included spadmin
on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the system
tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
C.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:37:06 +0100
From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
Message-ID: <lfv0lf$tb9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Le 14/03/2014 13:40, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little more.
Not off-hand, I'd have to trawl through the LO user mailing list - the
problems might have been linked to a particular OS or particular Type1
fonts, I don't remember exactly now.
This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
including on Mac OSX.
I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included spadmin
on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
Yes, I wasn't talking about LO, but during OOo times, before the switch
to CUPS printing, this was possible.
If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the system
tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
Unfortunately, I have no idea. My comments were made not to discourage
you from going ahead with your plan, just to relate what I had seen on
the LO mailing list and my own previous experience of before/after the
switch to CUPS printing, both on Linux and OSX.
Questions / bugs about PS Type1 support :
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2631/adobe-postscript-type-1-font-not-displaying-in-libreoffice-3532-mac/
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37453
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg05099.html
https://forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1197
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/6045-type-1-fonts-not-seen-by-libreoffice-36-bodhi-201/page__view__findpost__p__56029
The last one, in particular (seocnd to last comment), provides a
workaround for creating AFM/PFM files on Linux, but note that this
didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch to CUPS printing was
made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in OOo "automagically".
Alex
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:46:18 +0200
From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>
To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 02:37:06PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
The last one, in particular (seocnd to last comment), provides a
workaround for creating AFM/PFM files on Linux, but note that this
didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch to CUPS printing was
made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in OOo "automagically".
The code that requires AFM files for Type1 fonts have been there since
2001 with the introduction of PostSctipt printing in OpenOffice, so I
fail to see how it would have worked differently in the bast.
(I don?t really think we need the info contained in the AFM files,
though, but someone has to trace the code to verify this.)
Regards
Khaled
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:56:33 +0100
From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
We might want to get rid of this page too at the same time :
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Setting_up_Printer_and_Fax_Under_UNIX_Based_Platforms
Alex
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:04:50 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 14:37 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
Questions / bugs about PS Type1 support :
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2631/adobe-postscript-type-1-font-not-displaying-in-libreoffice-3532-mac/
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37453
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg05099.html
https://forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1197
That block of reports seems to be about Type 1 fonts not being
recognized under MacOSX.
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/6045-type-1-fonts-not-seen-by-libreoffice-36-bodhi-201/page__view__findpost__p__56029
This one is about Type 1 fonts under Linux not recognized without afms
present
and it seems a little uncertain if that's the MacOSX issue as well
The old add-fonts stuff in spadmin wouldn't have had any effect on
either of those two issues.
but note that this didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch
to CUPS printing was made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in
OOo "automagically".
I don't see a connection between Type1 fonts not being recognized on
MacOSX and CUPS printing. Either way spadmin wouldn't help.
C.
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:06:10 +0100
From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
Let me add to the list :
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70184
Alex
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:13:29 +0100
From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
Call me a killjoy, but this one looks related too :
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38825
The user here, printing on older business printers, had to configure a
specific font directory containing only PS Type 1 fonts in order for the
conversion to PDF would work in a way allowing him to print his documents.
Alex
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:08:05 +0000
From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>
To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Cc: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 15:13 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
Call me a killjoy, but this one looks related too :
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38825
The user here, printing on older business printers, had to configure a
specific font directory containing only PS Type 1 fonts in order for the
conversion to PDF would work in a way allowing him to print his
documents.
Again these don't have any connection to spadmin. Even when spadmin had
the ability to add stuff into your font dirs it wouldn't have been able
to be used to configure the dirs in the hacky way the reporter there
used to workaround whatever the problem he had back then.
C,
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:24:38 +0100
From: Rob Snelders <rob@ertai.nl>
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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Hi All,
From my last job in retail-supplying I know a lot of Fax is still used
in countries like Belgium, UK and a lot of African countries.
We wheren't communicating directly between the faxes and libreoffice,
but I wouldn't say that Fax isn't used anymore.
Also in the legal the Fax is still used as a faxed document is legal in
some countries but via email/internet isn't.
--
Greetings,
Rob Snelders
Caol?n McNamara schreef op 14-03-2014 13:40:
On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 12:31 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are
no
longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
also in BZ) for some people.
Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little
more.
This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
including on Mac OSX.
I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included
spadmin
on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the
system
tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
C.
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:15:58 +0100
From: Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl>
To: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm@redhat.com>,
LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
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Hi Caol?n,
Caol?n McNamara wrote (14-03-14 11:45)
So the question is if any part of
spadmin is still useful? Is there anyone still configuring fax machines
or using the other options there, and if so for what purpose ?
I would not be surprised.. but will ask some contacts to be more sure
(for as far as my network is concerned).
thanks for asking,
Cor
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