Minutes of ESC call

* Present
    + Bjoern, Stephan, Cloph, Caolán, Fridrich, Kohei, Moggi, Kendy, Miklos, David, Michael S., 
Astron
    
* Completed Action Items
    + create a general ideas page, dis-connected from GSoC (Fridrich)
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
        [ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ]
    + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
        [ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here
          not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled.
          Investigation ongoing. ].
        + Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help)
             https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74388 [Bjoern/Kohei]
    + FOSDEM attendees: add talks to
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks

 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.1.5 RC3 status
        + a Calc problem needed RC3
        + Linux & Mac already uploaded, Windows just packinging
        + will be announced for early testing later today, final announcement delayed to the next
          week
 
* 4.2.0 post-mortem (Christian)
    + problem reported about Draw crashing - hard to reproduce, does not affect all users
        + maybe related to compiler? or accessibility?
        + fdo: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74226
        + Michael Stahl looking, proposed patches
        + needs to be fixed for 4.2.1
        + isnt that mostly happening on Windows 8 only?
    + anything to improve as release?
        + release is fine apart from Draw [Cloph]
        + some issue in Calc - couldn't reproduce yet [Cloph]
            + seems to be old OOo bug [Moggi]
        + comment handling issues [Moggi]
            + already fixed, but quite number of them [Kohei]
        + CJK issue in Calc - what's the status [Bjoern]
            + fixed & backported [Kohei]
AI          + but Bjoern maybe talks a different one? [Bjorn] 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74388
    + branching for 4.2.1 planned for Monday [Cloph]
        + no need to delay, let's proceed as planned, in the worst case 3 reviews [Fridrich / 
consensus]

* iOS / Android remote (Cloph)
    + very well perceived, 5-star reviews :-)

* GSoC update (Fridrich)
    + page cloned, 2 versions - one with everything, the other cleaned up a bit
    + consider what you are able to mentor
    + remove tasks that you cannot mentor - the ideas are still archived at a GenialIdeas page
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/GenialIdeas
    + ideas to mentor should stay here:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + LibreOffice/TDF as an organization has applied
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + new crash-test / data (?)
        + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/60af010a98540b4785353b27ccbb545ef72e7791/
    + possibility to run with memcheck at KACST? - would be great
    + Norbert uploading new Coverity build
        + some timeouts... [Norbert]
        + you can ignore that [Moggi]

* UX hackfest bits (Kendy/Michael)
    + wrap-up
    + was great! [Kendy]
    + write your achievements here:
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Achievements
    + were there new people? [Bjoern]
        + no idea - but at least met eg. Joren, Jacobo, Tomaž and others in person for
          the first time :-) [Kendy]
        + can have a look at the page with subscribed people [Miklos]
 
* FOSDEM this weekend (Kendy)
    + wrap-up
    + 2 tables, handing over stickers, t-shirts, hoodies
        + many LibreOffice people around
        + on Saturday dinner, there were ~30 people related to LibreOffice
    + dev-room talks - let's collect the slides
AI      + add to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks
        + recordings exist, but no idea where they are [Bjoern]
            + they will be at http://video.fosdem.org/2014/ [Miklos]
            
* Crash reporter (Caolan)
    + we don't use it, should we remove that?
    + we have a GSoC project for making use of that [Cloph]
    + probably let's kill that for now, and if there is interest in resurrecting it, let's
      revert that / bring it back from history? [Kendy]
        + yes [Caolan]
        + not needed on Linux anyway, distros do it differently [Miklos]

* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
    + no news
 
* QA (Robinson)
    + Bugzilla Migration update
       + no update.
    + Need-advice bug list bits ?
       + need to work through & remind some CC'd devs.
    + 4.2 issues
       + already discussed in the Release engineering part
       + please fix issues, there is no better time than now ;-)
    + 4.1.x regressions [x > 0] (Michael S.)
       + those that happened between 4.1.0 and 4.1.x
       + candidates for fixing in 4.1.6 - many need some more triaging (Mac specific bugs or 
complex to
         reproduce or needinfo)
         
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=385735&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&version=4.1.1.1%20rc&version=4.1.1.2%20release&version=4.1.2.1%20rc&version=4.1.2.2%20rc&version=4.1.2.3%20release&version=4.1.3.1%20rc&version=4.1.3.2%20release&version=4.1.4.1%20rc&version=4.1.4.2%20release&version=4.1.5.1%20rc&version=4.1.5.2%20rc&version=4.1.5.3%20release&version=4.1.6.1%20rc&product=LibreOffice
       + would be good to make sure we don't have any of these in 4.1.6 [Bjoern]
           + in 3.6.x QA walked through those then and found most either fixed, or proved
             not to be a regression vs. 3.6.0 [but one, but that was reported after the
             final release]

* QA stats:

Querying overall / top bug stats
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      + 305 -274 (+31 overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
          QA Administrators   82
          Cor Nouws           15
          Maxim Monastirsky   15
          Caolán McNamara     12
          tommy27             11
          Jean-Baptiste Faure 11
          Michael Stahl       10
          Joel Madero          7
          Kohei Yoshida        7
          Qubit                6
          Andras Timar         6
          Jorendc              6
          sophie               6

* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
     20%   21%   24%   26%   28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127
     24%    23%    23%    25%    23%    23%    23%    22%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208 57/208
     24%    25%    24%    25%    25%    26%    26%    26%    27%    27%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168
  + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 346(+0) bugs open of 2295(+40) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 91 (-4)
      Spreadsheet - 64 (+9)
      Libreoffice - 30 (-1)
     Presentation - 27 (+1)
          Crashes - 22 (-1)
         Database - 21 (-2)
          Drawing - 16 (-1)
          Borders - 16 (+0)
            BASIC - 4 (-2)
        Migration - 3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1