Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: LibreOffice Help

Hi,

maintaining and translating LO help via wiki is a no-go for localization
(teams).

If someone wants to play with that, he/she can do it as one's own pet
project, maybe by creating a fork of LO. But LO should officially stay away
from it. Or it will, quite soon, become an English-only office suite. If
that will be the case, the localization teams should think about forking LO
:-)

Lp, m.


2013/10/8 Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>

> Hi Rob,
>
> I'm adding the l10n list in copy because they are concerned
> Le 08/10/2013 11:16, libreoffice-ertai.nl a écrit :
> > Hi Sophie,
> >
> > As I understood the offline help is now hard to maintain.
>
> Yes, this is something complicated for developers
>  This should
> > change that so that the help-wiki will be exported for each release's
> > offline help. So It should make changing/translating the help easier.
>
> I don't doubt that the wiki would be easier than filling the help .ott
> and using the basic macros that was used in the past, I've used it and
> it's really complicated.
> What is important for us (l10n team) is the possibility to use Pootle to
> maintain our translation, because the wiki is not a translation tool (no
> glossary, no TM, no way to track changes, no way to mark incorrect/fuzzy
> strings, no way to share the files, no xml checks, etc...) and is
> impossible to search currently (we need a i18n wiki for that).
> That means also that the wiki edition is restrained to the necessary
> changes and enhancements that are needed and only those and that changes
> are only made in the en_US sources.
> I understand that you are currently only working on the process to
> export the wiki, but I think that the l10n team may have some input too.
> Again (because already expressed to Kendy), my concerns are not about
> the changes in the process, I really understand that, but about to make
> sure that the l10n team is made aware of the changes in their work if
> any, and that the way they are working currently to localize those
> important and huge files is taken into account in the process.
>
> Kind regards
> Sophie
> > --
> > Greetings,
> > Rob Snelders
> >
> > Sophie schreef op 08-10-2013 09:20:
> > > Hi Markus, Rob,
> > > Le 08/10/2013 01:52, Markus Mohrhard a écrit :
> > > > Hey Rob,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/10/7 Rob Snelders <libreoffice@ertai.nl>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Markus,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have spoken about exporting the help-system from the help-wiki.
> > > > > We will
> > > > > need a html/javascript framework for that. I don't think a basic
> > > > > framework
> > > > > will need more time then a month or 2 for me. But I think we will
> > > > > also need
> > > > > to look at how we export the pages from the wiki because how the
> > > > > pages are
> > > > > exported is important.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can you tell me what plugin for mediawiki you had in mind to do the
> > > > > export?
> > > >
> > > > I found DumpHTML at the mediawiki page. I wanted to try this first
> > > > before
> > > > looking for other scripts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Is there a test-wiki to try it on to see what it does, maybe we'll
> > > > > need to
> > > > > change the plugin to fit our needs.
> > > >
> > > > We will get a VM from the infrastructure team soon. We will test all
> the
> > > > steps there. I'll tell you more as soon as we get the VM and have it
> > > > correctly set up with a wikihelp instance.
> > >
> > > If the l10n team is impacted by your project, please tell me, as this is
> > > their (huge) work, I would like to keep them in the loop.
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Kind regards
> > > Sophie
>
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