minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
    + Tibby, David, Adam, Caolan, Cedric, Kendy, Kohei, Markus, Michael M,
      Tsahi, Cloph, Robinson, Andras, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items:
    + setup tb3 repo on gerrit (Bjoern)
       https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=tb3-django.git;a=summary
    + mail everyone wrt. instructions on how to un-break MSVC 2012 wrt. XP (Markus)
    + attempt export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs (Caolan)
       [ sent as CSV to the mailing list, nice to have a better way still ]
    + take German public holiday ...
* Pending Action Items:
    + find better way to export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs (Caolan)
    + push new default templates in & fix if necessary (Ahmad)
       [ Mirek had concerns wrt. pushing these to master, need to vote on it ]
AI:      if no vote is setup in a week, push anyway (Mirek, Ahmad)
    + switch to 10.8 baseline for Mac / 64bit (Norbert)
    + setup infrastructure to build bibisect repos (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
    + CC all developers' mailing list on all the easy hacks (Bjoern)
    + change wiki page to eliminate proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
    + propose different name for proposed easy hacks (Markus)
    + produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
    + partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
    + produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
    + transition and automate this inside a VM for Cloph (Lionel)
    + create a script that counts bug commenters stats for minor
      release update PR (Bjoern)
    + send a mail to libreoffice user list for each "API CHANGE" commit (unassigned)
       - as discussed in Stephans UNO API talk
       [ Markus prefer to have a new script that we plug in ] (Bjoern/Stephan)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.1.2 RC3 status
        + on the mirror network
        + pending press release / announce.
AI:     + poke marketing / PR for announce (Cloph)
    + 4.0.6 RC1 - deadline was Monday (? ...
        + on the mirror network; 4.0.6 built with 10.6 baseline
        + stand-in for Norbert, RC1 is not compatible with 10.4 but RC2 will be
    + 4.1.3 RC1 - deadline next Monday.
* GSOC round-up / summary (Cedric)
    + sadly had to fail 2x students
    + all others did a great job, have pushed their code to Melange
    + everything green on the administrative side.
    + questionable merit of passing border-line people at the mid-term
    + Cedric still waiting for couple of lines summary / update from each student.
* Stopping the BSA from auto-setting 'regression' keyword (Markus)
    + quality of 'regression' bugs has declined significantly, too many
      unconfirmed/needinfo bugs for calc.
        + bit de-motivating, to see 30% of bugs in needinfo -> because not a regression
    + in favour of removing it (Kohei)
        + used to have a special query, to pick up bugs with 'regression' keyword
        + # of bugs with 'regression' was approaching # of open calc bugs many in error.
    + a QA person should have looked at it before it is marked.
    + nice if BSA - make these suggestions - might be a regression, but not
      pollute the tags, QA person has to confirm it is (Robinson)
        => not making searches unusable.
AI: + ask Rob to turn 'regression' status off (Robinson)
* Conference round
    + great to meet everyone, and attach faces to name (Adam)
       + enjoyed hackathon & presentations
    + relaxing & casual atmosphere & diverse attendance (Kohei)
    + v. motivating to all be together (Robinson)
    + concern wrt. conf. timing - to get more students there,
      need a better timeline, and travel pre-approval / budget (Michael, Caolan)
         + ideally announce @ end of 1 conf. where the next will be.
         + like to see the call for next conf. locations to start ASAP.
* QA update (Robinson)
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
        +121    -97    (+24 overall) [ conference week ]
         many thanks to the top five bug squashers:
             Samuel M.       9
             ign_christian   8
             Markus Mohrhard 7
             Teo91           5
             Maxim           4
    + Bibisected regressions waiting to be addressed (some older than 1 year)
    
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&list_id=348917&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&order=changeddate%2Ccomponent%2Cop_sys%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=
        + 50x bugs there, some bibisected to non-useful places (before time began eg.) (Michael)
        + if there is a dead-end need to annotate / get more feedback (Robinson)
    + Private/secure space and policy for large/confidential files needed for bug repro? (Robinson)
      + difficulty of getting large documents up-loaded & exchanged - bugzilla rejects it
          + often ask to have document paired down for fixing etc.
          + currently no structure.
      + what should our policy be ? store on servers ? or ... web-upload ?
AI:   + ask Florian for a minimal / simple solution larger docs (Robinson)
          + either large, or (more) confidential
          + something like pastebin (but private) for doc submission.
* Bibisect & daily builds
    + do we have windows bibisect daily builds ?
    + who has access to the daily builds / status on the Mac tinderbox builds
        + pending Norbert's return.
* QA stats:
* Open 4.2 MAB
        + 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6 5/6 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675
* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 17/99 15/96 14/93 12/91 14/91 17/89 15/85 15/81 13/77 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52
           17%   16%   15%   13%   15%   19%   18%   19%   17%  12%   17%   5%  14%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 58/198 56/195 54/193 55/194 52/183 50/180 52/180 44/171 32/157 14/138 13/137
           29%    29%    28%    29%    28%    28%    29%    26%    20%    10%    9%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 35/143 34/142 34/141 34/140 35/140 36/167 37/137 41/137 33/128 33/125 34/124
                + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 381(+7) bugs open of 2050(+16) total
        * ~Component   count net *
                Writer - 107 (+3)
           Spreadsheet - 53 (-1)
           Libreoffice - 46 (+0)
          Presentation - 32 (+1)
               Crashes - 28 (+1)
              Database - 23 (+1)
               Borders - 17 (+0)
               Drawing - 17 (-1)
                 BASIC -  4 (+2)
             Migration -  3 (+0)
    + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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